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Milosevich innocent

Karloff

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It seems Slobodan Milosevich has been acquitted of the crimes he was charged with by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.

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The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague has quietly cleared the late Serbian president, Slobodan Milosevic, of war crimes committed during the 1992-95 Bosnian war, including the massacre at Srebrenica.

Far from conspiring with the convicted Bosnian-Serb leader Radovan Karadzic, Milosevic actually "condemned ethnic cleansing", opposed Karadzic and tried to stop the war that dismembered Yugoslavia. Buried near the end of a 2,590 page judgement on Karadzic last February, this truth further demolishes the propaganda that justified Nato's illegal onslaught on Serbia in 1999.


Milosevic died of a heart attack in 2006, alone in his cell in The Hague, during what amounted to a bogus trial by an American-invented "international tribunal". Denied heart surgery that might have saved his life, his condition worsened and was monitored and kept secret by US officials, as WikiLeaks has since revealed.

Milosevic was the victim of war propaganda that today runs like a torrent across our screens and newspapers and beckons great danger for us all. He was the prototype demon, vilified by the western media as the "butcher of the Balkans" who was responsible for "genocide", especially in the secessionist Yugoslav province of Kosovo. Prime Minister Tony Blair said so, invoked the Holocaust and demanded action against "this new Hitler".
Another victim of the Americans?

Milosevich was effectively tried by the media and we all bought it, this was before the disgrace called humanitarian imperialism was stripped of it's clothes, before we became skeptical of all the media when they demonised an opponent of NATO and paved the way for a war.

They have done this again and again, most recently with Colonel Gaddafi who was as innocent as Milosevich of what the media screamed he was guilty of. Now Libya is a mess which they do not take the blame and responsibility for. They didn't even pause, they moved on to Syria. No moral tangent whatsoever to this sorry business.
 


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John Pilger. :roll:

How can you say he was innocent, when everyone knows he basically created the Bosnian Serb army? Who gave them their tanks?

He was an enabler.

He let Arkans deathsquads into Kosovo.
 

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John Pilger. :roll:

How can you say he was innocent, when everyone knows he basically created the Bosnian Serb army? Who gave them their tanks?

He was an enabler.

He let Arkans deathsquads into Kosovo.
He was found innocent of war crimes, the thing he was charged with.

He was manslaughtered in his cell while awaiting trial too. If you have evidence then take it to the court that acquitted him, or maybe consider that perhaps your version that you have been led to believe is actually not the truth? Maybe an example of this propaganda that has been overwhelming. People read something in the paper and believe it is true, but it can be total lies, i learned this after the invasion of Iraq. Once you peek behind the curtain there is no going back.

I found the following revelation shocking however...

It was blatantly ideological; at a notorious “peace conference” in Rambouillet in France, Milosevic was confronted by Madeleine Albright, the US secretary of state, who was to achieve infamy with her remark that the deaths of half a million Iraqi children were “worth it”.

Albright delivered an “offer” to Milosevic that no national leader could accept. Unless he agreed to the foreign military occupation of his country, with the occupying forces “outside the legal process”, and to the imposition of a neo-liberal “free market”, Serbia would be bombed. This was contained in an “Appendix B”, which the media failed to read or suppressed. The aim was to crush Europe’s last independent “socialist” state.
Basically the warmongering ************************ Albright was forcing him to adopt Western style capitalism or get bombed. Isn't this the mirror image of what happened to Gaddafi?

Hundreds of Christian Churches have since been torched in Kosovo and the kla darlings we learned committed massacres of their own and engaged in organ extraction of prisoners. We learn later - dependably that the media were defending the real monsters and demonising their opponents.
 
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He was found innocent of war crimes, the thing he was charged with.

He was manslaughtered in his cell while awaiting trial too. If you have evidence then take it to the court that acquitted him, or maybe consider that perhaps your version that you have been led to believe is actually not the truth? Maybe an example of this propaganda that has been overwhelming. People read something in the paper and believe it is true, but it can be total lies, i learned this after the invasion of Iraq. Once you peek behind the curtain there is no going back.
He has not been exonerated nor convicted. His death makes that impossible.

This was the ICTYs reply to a RFE question on the report.

"The Trial Chamber of the Karadzic case found, at paragraph 3460, page 1303, of the Trial Judgement, that 'there was no sufficient evidence presented in this case to find that Slobodan Milosevic agreed with the common plan' [to create territories ethnically cleansed of non-Serbs]. The Trial Chamber found earlier in the same paragraph that 'Milosevic provided assistance in the form of personnel, provisions and arms to Bosnian Serbs during the conflict'."
 

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It seems Slobodan Milosevich has been acquitted of the crimes he was charged with by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.

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Another victim of the Americans?

Milosevich was effectively tried by the media and we all bought it, this was before the disgrace called humanitarian imperialism was stripped of it's clothes, before we became skeptical of all the media when they demonised an opponent of NATO and paved the way for a war.

They have done this again and again, most recently with Colonel Gaddafi who was as innocent as Milosevich of what the media screamed he was guilty of. Now Libya is a mess which they do not take the blame and responsibility for. They didn't even pause, they moved on to Syria. No moral tangent whatsoever to this sorry business.
There is a big big difference between being acquitted and being innocent.

How is he a victim of the Americans?
 

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It seems Slobodan Milosevich has been acquitted of the crimes he was charged with by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.

Another victim of the Americans?

Milosevich was effectively tried by the media and we all bought it, this was before the disgrace called humanitarian imperialism was stripped of it's clothes, before we became skeptical of all the media when they demonised an opponent of NATO and paved the way for a war.

They have done this again and again, most recently with Colonel Gaddafi who was as innocent as Milosevich of what the media screamed he was guilty of. Now Libya is a mess which they do not take the blame and responsibility for. They didn't even pause, they moved on to Syria. No moral tangent whatsoever to this sorry business.
The UK and the US have a lot to answer for for the last 20 shameful years.

Their senseless warmongering in the Middle East and the evolution of Islamic extremism is at their door. Blair actively lied to Parliament. Colin Powell stood before the UN Assembly and delivered the most embarrassing speech on supposed chemical weapons available to the Iraqis, a nation that was being starved to such a degree that an apparent half million children suffered from malnutrition.

Al Qaeda, a Saudi-backed, Afghan-based militia funded by US tax dollars incites the US to invade a secular Muslim nation which actively condemned Al Qaeda.

A hazardous intervention in both Syria and Libya which has left those countries as shells of their once imperfect selves.

By foregoing peaceful resolution they have dismantled democracy and have served more as World Mobsters than a World Police.

I would be very, very careful indeed about taking anything an American/British influenced trial would say as fact.
 

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Let it not be forgotten that Milosevic was the one who stripped Kosovo of its autonomy in 1989, in the longterm paving the way for what was to come. It was similar to the late Georgian President Gamsakurdia's decision to strip South Ossetia and Abhazia of their autonomy. It should be remembered that Russia regarded the latter as grounds for its interventions there in the 1990s. But when it comes to Kosovo they have a different attitude. And you're concern for the fate of the Serbs in Kosovo is sadly not apparent in the case of the 500,000 Georgians expelled from Abkhazia or the 30,000 expelled from South Ossetia.
 
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Look here, no prosecution occurred for the below..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/14/kosovo-prime-minister-llike-mafia-boss

Kosovo's prime minister is the head of a "mafia-like" Albanian group responsible for smuggling weapons, drugs and human organs through eastern Europe, according to a Council of Europe inquiry report on organised crime.

Hashim Thaçi is identified as the boss of a network that began operating criminal rackets in the runup to the 1998-99 Kosovo war, and has held powerful sway over the country's government since.
Ah sure so what? What's a little organ rape between NATO friends? NATO's newest friends in Syria also organ harvest. Seems to be becoming an unofficial mode of funding for pro NATO terror groups.

Just as well he didn't do anything really bad like seek to defend his national territory from the dictates of the global elite or refuse US suggestions for economic surgery on Serbia, now that would be deadly serious.

Hashim Thaçi is still the President of Kosovo.
 

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Look here, no prosecution occurred for the below..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/14/kosovo-prime-minister-llike-mafia-boss



Ah sure so what? What's a little organ rape between NATO friends? NATO's newest friends in Syria also organ harvest. Seems to be becoming an unofficial mode of funding for pro NATO terror groups.

Just as well he didn't do anything really bad like seek to defend his national territory from the dictates of the global elite or refuse US suggestions for economic surgery on Serbia, now that would be deadly serious.

Hashim Thaçi is still the President of Kosovo.
Theres no doubt that the KLA also committed war crimes, possibly including organ smuggling. I didnt dispute that but Milosevic set the ball rolling when he scrapped Kosovo's autonomy in 1989, and repeatedly broke his promises to withdraw troops during the Rambouillet process.

I particularly recall the notorious news story where there was a huge crowd at a border checkpoint and then a few days later they had vanished to an unknown fate. There was also the Racak Massacre.

Dictators are good at covering their tracks. No document has been found proving Hitler talked about the death camps (unlike Goering). Yet we know he was behind them.
 
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Meh,more recent events in Iraq and Afghanistan put Yugoslavia in the ha'penny place.
No point in having 'war crimes legislation' , if the likes of UK , France, US, Russia, China are given immunity.
 

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How is he a victim of the Americans?
They probably funded and exploited the loon. They have form .
Kind of like how they encourage and support Nazis in the Ukraine today.Or nihilist extremists in Syria.
 
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The OP is not able to read

Milošević was not found innocent ... he was dead at the time

Claims of Exoneration: The Case of Slobodan Milo

This burying, as it was described, took the form of the view (para 3460, p. 1303) of the Trial judgment, that “there was no sufficient evidence presented in this case to find that Slobodan Milošević agreed with the common plan”.

That common plan entailed the adoption of ethnic cleansing policies towards non-Serbs, straddling a gamut of atrocities. But the judgment also found that “Milošević provided assistance in the form of personnel, provisions and arms to Bosnian Serbs during the conflict.”

...As such, the ICTY judgment remained specific to Karadžić, not Milošević, with side comments always being a case of dicta. No formal determination had ever been made about the latter in that regard, though it did provide useful titbits about the difficulties of imputing such responsibility, especially in the specifics of the Bosnian conflict. The chamber, in that case, could only acknowledge that the objectives of Belgrade and those of the Bosnian Serbs did, over time, diverge.
Pilger and the OP crave blood ...US blood


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Perhaps the pro-Russian original poster is confusing the ICTY with the Russian justice system where - as the Magnitsky case shows - you can be found guilty/not guilty after you die.
 

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It seems Slobodan Milosevich has been acquitted of the crimes he was charged with by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.

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Another victim of the Americans?

Milosevich was effectively tried by the media and we all bought it, this was before the disgrace called humanitarian imperialism was stripped of it's clothes, before we became skeptical of all the media when they demonised an opponent of NATO and paved the way for a war.

They have done this again and again, most recently with Colonel Gaddafi who was as innocent as Milosevich of what the media screamed he was guilty of. Now Libya is a mess which they do not take the blame and responsibility for. They didn't even pause, they moved on to Syria. No moral tangent whatsoever to this sorry business.
Another apologist of murderers is outing himself. So the thugs Gaddafi and Milosevic are "innocent" as new born babies. Just like Hitler, Stalin,Pol Pot,KimJong Un,Idi Amin,Pinochet,Assad,etc. And again it is all America's fault. It won't be taking long and someone will blame it all on the "Zionists".
Sane people have a look at this here first:
Milosevic 'Exonerated'? War-Crime Deniers Feed Receptive Audience
 

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John Pilger. :roll:
There is a big big difference between being acquitted and being innocent.
Was he even acquitted?

I had a look on the ICTY website - looks as if the case was abandoned, unresolved

37 Had their indictments withdrawn or are deceased


20 Indictments withdrawn
Mirko Babić, Nenad Banović, Zdravko Govedarica, Gruban, Marinko Katava, Dragan Kondić, Predrag Kostić, Goran Lajić, Zoran Marinić, Agim Murtezi, Nedeljko Paspalj, Milan Pavlić, Milutin Popović, Draženko Predojević, Ivan Šantić, Dragomir Šaponja, Željko Savić, Pero Skopljak, Nedjeljko Timarac, Milan Zec


10 Reported deceased before transfer to the Tribunal
Stipo Alilović, Janko Bobetko, Goran Borovnica, Simo Drljača, Dragan Gagović, Janko Janjić, Nikica Janjić, Slobodan Miljković, Željko Ražnatović, Vlajko Stojiljković


7 Deceased after transfer to the Tribunal
Mehmed Alagić, Đorđe Đukić, Slavko Dokmanović, Goran Hadžić, Milan Kovačević, Slobodan Milošević, Momir Talić
Key Figures of the Cases | International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia

http://www.icty.org/x/cases/slobodan_milosevic/cis/en/cis_milosevic_slobodan_en.pdf

Pilger and karloff are being economical with the truth ....
 

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Theres no doubt that the KLA also committed war crimes, possibly including organ smuggling. I didnt dispute that but Milosevic set the ball rolling when he scrapped Kosovo's autonomy in 1989, and repeatedly broke his promises to withdraw troops during the Rambouillet process.

I particularly recall the notorious news story where there was a huge crowd at a border checkpoint and then a few days later they had vanished to an unknown fate. There was also the Racak Massacre.

Dictators are good at covering their tracks. No document has been found proving Hitler talked about the death camps (unlike Goering). Yet we know he was behind them.
Have you a link for that?
 

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Another apologist of murderers is outing himself. So the thugs Gaddafi and Milosevic are "innocent" as new born babies. Just like Hitler, Stalin,Pol Pot,KimJong Un,Idi Amin,Pinochet,Assad,etc. And again it is all America's fault. It won't be taking long and someone will blame it all on the "Zionists".
Sane people have a look at this here first:
Milosevic 'Exonerated'? War-Crime Deniers Feed Receptive Audience
Gas how the '1984' double-speak term 'denier' is constantly being pushed by the usual suspects as a term of abuse and general negative.

'Holocaust denier' was invented by zioloon, Lippstadt, to try and demonise revisionists who have a bad habit of telling the truth. The use of the term is being spread purposefully by Zionists to increase its gravitas.
 
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He was an enabler.
...and a rabble rouser. Expert in the sort of 'nudge nudge wink wink' (although Milosevic was'nt even as subtle as that) politics we all know....like an even more malevolent and more unscrupulous Trump. Rouse people into a fury, turn the attacks dogs on your enemies...and then at the end of the day, act the innocent and tearfully disclaim blame for the storm you helped create. It's an old, old story.

They probably funded and exploited the loon. They have form.
No evidence has ever been produced for that.

Have you a link for that?
Careful! Mention the Nazis and Rasher &co will appear like flies on fresh faeces.
 
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