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Minister Quinn & Labour wants to divert child benefit cash


realistic1

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I see minister Quinn wants to divert child benefit funds into early-education. He is using the usual excuse of narrowing the gap in education between the wealthy and the disadvantaged. If he really wanted to help the disadvantaged he should immediately cut the 100 million euro funding that goes to fee paying secondary schools. This 100 million would do a lot to help early education.

Quinn: Child benefit money could be diverted to early education | Irish Examiner
 

firefly123

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Personally I think it's an excellent idea.
Might make mickey money night a little less profitable though.
 
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Dylan2010

I see minister Quinn wants to divert child benefit funds into early-education. He is using the usual excuse of narrowing the gap in education between the wealthy and the disadvantaged. If he really wanted to help the disadvantaged he should immediately cut the 100 million euro funding that goes to fee paying secondary schools. This 100 million would do a lot to help early education.

Quinn: Child benefit money could be diverted to early education | Irish Examiner
why do you sabotage your own thread?, Quinn was asked about the private schools thing on the news and he said they were seperate issues. Youd be better starting a thread without landmines built into
 
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Unless early education brings about an improvement in educational outcomes, I don't really see the point... or at least I'd prefer to see the money spent on proper schools to get rid of portakabins and keep class sizes down.

The article doesn't really give you much to go on though.
 

Dame_Enda

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An excellent idea which could also serve to reduce the incentive to have children to get more welfare.
 

borntorum

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I think it's a good proposal, in theory. I would be happy to see the child benefit money diverted into providing universal pre-school and child care provision.

The current system of handing over bundles of cash to people is old-style Bertieconomics and is an inefficient use of resources
 
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Dylan2010

it still requires an answer to the question can the state make up for dumb parents who have an anti educational bias?
 

Bow tie

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A good idea in the good times.

Now? He must want to drag a large part of the country using this to pay for their homes, utilities and food down into the depths. Misery loves company and all that.
The idiots in Dail eireann will have us all back in the fields soon. Permanent penury for all.
 

Analyzer

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Ruairi Spin went to boarding school himself. He represents a part of Dublin, where it is often the done thing.

If Ruairi Spin really wanted to save cash for more important purposes, he would tell Gimmemore that she is not needed as an advisor.

What was the selection procedure there anyway ? apart from the usual Looper Party nepotism.
 

Tin Foil Hat

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  • Take benefit A
  • Divide into smaller benefit B + Service C
  • Wait one or two years
  • Cancel Service C due to shortage of funds
  • Swan off into sunset with massive pension.
 

BrightDay

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I see minister Quinn wants to divert child benefit funds into early-education. He is using the usual excuse of narrowing the gap in education between the wealthy and the disadvantaged. If he really wanted to help the disadvantaged he should immediately cut the 100 million euro funding that goes to fee paying secondary schools. This 100 million would do a lot to help early education.

Quinn: Child benefit money could be diverted to early education | Irish Examiner
Why try to lower the standards in one sector (fee paying) to compensate for the lower standards elsewhere. The reality is that we will never all be equal.
 

firefly123

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I take it you have very little financial worries
Oh god no. I've got plenty. However I believe a lot of the allowance allocated to children does not go to the children or their welfare in a lot of cases. This way insures it does.
 

firefly123

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  • Take benefit A
  • Divide into smaller benefit B + Service C
  • Wait one or two years
  • Cancel Service C due to shortage of funds
  • Swan off into sunset with massive pension.
Succinctly put and Sadly true.
 

realistic1

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why do you sabotage your own thread?, Quinn was asked about the private schools thing on the news and he said they were seperate issues. Youd be better starting a thread without landmines built into

This is not a "separate issue" when you see that tax payer funding for fee paying schools has a direct result in pupils going on to Third level education.

Fee-paying and Gaelscoil students most likely to go to university - Education News | Primary, Secondary & Third Level | The Irish Time - Tue, May 07, 2013
 

drummed

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Unless early education brings about an improvement in educational outcomes, I don't really see the point... or at least I'd prefer to see the money spent on proper schools to get rid of portakabins and keep class sizes down.

The article doesn't really give you much to go on though.
Threads are never about just one thing. The more bellyaching in an OP the better as it deflects attention from the original point as we watch this descend into a handbagging session re private schools. The scattergun approach works well as it draws in every nutter with a gripe.
Wait till you see my Dept of agriculture subsidised fodder/ abolish the seanad thread.
 
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Dylan2010

This is not a "separate issue" when you see that tax payer funding for fee paying schools has a direct result in pupils going on to Third level education.

Fee-paying and Gaelscoil students most likely to go to university - Education News | Primary, Secondary & Third Level | The Irish Time - Tue, May 07, 2013
yawn, do you want a 100 posters to give you their shopping list of what should be cut to fund this (assuming it could work)....I'll start, foreign aid you have 500m to play with which wont affect any taxpayer here
 

firefly123

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Threads are never about just one thing. The more bellyaching in an OP the better as it deflects attention from the original point as we watch this descend into a handbagging session re private schools. The scattergun approach works well as it draws in every nutter with a gripe.
Wait till you see my Dept of agriculture subsidised fodder/ abolish the seanad thread.
We could ground down senators and use them as fodder!
 

realistic1

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yawn, do you want a 100 posters to give you their shopping list of what should be cut to fund this (assuming it could work)....I'll start, foreign aid you have 500m to play with which wont affect any taxpayer here
"Yawn" all you want but if Minister Quinn wants to fund early education for the reason of equality, he should start were there is direct tax payer funding of a privileged section in education.
 
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