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Minister Reilly should advertise abroad to fill 80% Salary Graduate Nurse posts.


Bobcolebrooke

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Minister Reilly should advertise abroad to fill 80% Salary Graduate Nurse posts.

It seems that only a handful of applicants have applied for the new cost saving Graduate Nurse posts. If Irish Nurses are not prepared to work for the wages on offer the Minister should look elsewhere to fill the vacancies.

Patients must be put first and if 1000 new Nurses are required then he should make all haste to fill the posts and provide the labour required on the front line. There are many fine nurses throughout the World who would be happy to take the jobs.

The INMO nursing union has maintained a voracious campaign of opposition to the Minister's cut price salary scheme.
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The Minister must have courage and be prepared to import nurses in what ever numbers are required to face down the so called boy-cotters, even if it means importing non Irish Nurses to replace striking nurses.

Hold your nerve and your resolve Minister and you will prevail for the common good just as Baroness Thatcher broke the Miners.

The Nurses' and Union's line that they will not accept two different rates for the same job is nonsense.
There are about 10 different increment pay rates for nurses with other pay grades in addition depending on promotion, and additional various allowances paid on top of that again.
The 80% initiative is simply adding a new lower increment level required by diminished resources to maintain essential services for vulnerable people.

Time to ring Liam Doran and tell him you see him and raise him 50 graduate nurse vacancies advertised in a high skill low wage economy!
 
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Hold your nerve and your resolve Minister and you will prevail for the common good just as Baroness Thatcher broke the Miners. Bob Colebrooke

Maybe some of the Ministers and yourself who advocate this type of 'value for money' nursing should start en masse looking after old, infirm and other sick members of society first. Even for a laugh try a weekend shift in the A&E and deal with the obnoxious foul-mouthed and violent drunks and druggies. Cleaning up after them, the stench and the danger of contamination from needles etc. Remember Enda is on 220'000kpa and he did'nt pass any qualifications to be Taoiseach.

You Bob are a sad reminder of why Ireland is a miserable place when it comes to fairness.
 

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I don't get that argument burnout. Working in rendering plant is dangerous, unpleasant work. Working in forestry is the same for the most part. As long as there are people willing to do the job for above minimum wage then I don't see the need to pay extra for it being unpleasant.

If there are qualified people willing to work in nursing for a certain salary, then I don't see why it should overpriced just to be nice.
 

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Hold your nerve and your resolve Minister and you will prevail for the common good just as Baroness Thatcher broke the Miners. Bob Colebrooke

Maybe some of the Ministers and yourself who advocate this type of 'value for money' nursing should start en masse looking after old, infirm and other sick members of society first. Even for a laugh try a weekend shift in the A&E and deal with the obnoxious foul-mouthed and violent drunks and druggies. Cleaning up after them, the stench and the danger of contamination from needles etc. Remember Enda is on 220'000kpa and he did'nt pass any qualifications to be Taoiseach.

You Bob are a sad reminder of why Ireland is a miserable place when it comes to fairness.


The Taoiseach's salary is €200,000 not €220,000. One of his first acts as Taoiseach was to reduce his salary and that of his ministers.


Even if you paid him nothing and divided his salary amoung the 290,000 public sector staff it would only give them an extra 1 cent each per week.
 

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Minister Reilly should advertise abroad to fill 80% Salary Graduate Nurse posts.
That would be admitting defeat and doom his sorry ass.

It seems that only a handful of applicants have applied for the new cost saving Graduate Nurse posts. If Irish Nurses are not prepared to work for the wages on offer the Minister should look elsewhere to fill the vacancies.

Patients must be put first and if 1000 new Nurses are required then he should make all haste to fill the posts and provide the labour required on the front line. There are many fine nurses throughout the World who would be happy to take the jobs.
Where are all these happy to take the nursing jobs, go on tell us?


The INMO nursing union has maintained a voracious campaign of opposition to the Minister's cut price salary scheme.
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That's their job, it's what Doran and the rest of them are paid to do and they do it well, pity the same can't be said of the minister.

The Minister must have courage and be prepared to import nurses in what ever numbers are required to face down the so called boy-cotters, even if it means importing non Irish Nurses to replace striking nurses.

Hold your nerve and your resolve Minister and you will prevail for the common good just as Baroness Thatcher broke the Miners.
Won't happen Bottler will bottle.
 

SeanieFitz

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I hope that this is a sign that people have taken enough, working/middle class that is, and that they are not willing to tolerate anymore. they cannot tolerate anymore.
as for the idiot that compares nursing to working in a rendering plant, sweet and gentle jesus!
 

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the reason for the low take up by 2012 nursing graduates is probably that the vast majority of them may already have left the country as they can easily get nursing jobs in the Uk and elsewhere.

They knew when they qualified last summer that there were no jobs on offer from the HSE; only the occasional temporary work through agencies. So why hang around on the dole?
 

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If these positions canot be filled from qualified nurses in Ireland, then all nurses currently on Jobseekers Allowence should have their benefit stopped.
 
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The Taoiseach's salary is €200,000 not €220,000. One of his first acts as Taoiseach was to reduce his salary and that of his ministers.


Even if you paid him nothing and divided his salary amoung the 290,000 public sector staff it would only give them an extra 1 cent each per week.
And that is totally inconsistent with the suggestion in your OP - most politicians and aspiring politicians would kill their grannies for the job of Taoiseach - the country is full of people every bit as qualified as Kenny who would do the job for buttons. So, let's lower the pay to 50k and see how we get on.
 
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If these positions canot be filled from qualified nurses in Ireland, then all nurses currently on Jobseekers Allowence should have their benefit stopped.
There will be no difficulty filling the jobs - the HSE will hire through the agencies and pay the agencies a handsome fee on top of the actual cost of the nurses' salaries. But that's ok - tis the private sector, you see.:roll:
 

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I thought everyone would be pleased that Doran is not "selling out the young nurses" and is supporting them, not like the teachers unions who were accused of "not caring about the new teachers" and who were willing to tolerate "a two-tier system" and not forgetting "I would have some respect for the unions if they supported their young members"......
 
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I thought everyone would be pleased that Doran is not "selling out the young nurses" and is supporting them, not like the teachers unions who were accused of "not caring about the new teachers" and who were willing to tolerate "a two-tier system" and not forgetting "I would have some respect for the unions if they supported their young members"......
Indeed - what any reasonable person would have expected in the circumstances.
 

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There will be no difficulty filling the jobs - the HSE will hire through the agencies and pay the agencies a handsome fee on top of the actual cost of the nurses' salaries. But that's ok - tis the private sector, you see.:roll:

No these positions are to replace the ridiculous money being spent/wasted on agency staff.
 

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Minister Reilly should advertise abroad to fill 80% Salary Graduate Nurse posts.

Hold your nerve and your resolve Minister and you will prevail for the common good just as Baroness Thatcher broke the Miners.
Actually....NO.

The Minister must acknowledge the professional role, training and important role of nurses by paying them 100% of the salary scale.
 
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No these positions are to replace the ridiculous money being spent/wasted on agency staff.
Then the HSE will have to offer a salary that competes with what the agencies are paying. That's how the free market works, isn't it?
 

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Minister Reilly should advertise abroad to fill 80% Salary Graduate Nurse posts.

It seems that only a handful of applicants have applied for the new cost saving Graduate Nurse posts. If Irish Nurses are not prepared to work for the wages on offer the Minister should look elsewhere to fill the vacancies.

Patients must be put first and if 1000 new Nurses are required then he should make all haste to fill the posts and provide the labour required on the front line. There are many fine nurses throughout the World who would be happy to take the jobs.

The INMO nursing union has maintained a voracious campaign of opposition to the Minister's cut price salary scheme.
Webcast

The Minister must have courage and be prepared to import nurses in what ever numbers are required to face down the so called boy-cotters, even if it means importing non Irish Nurses to replace striking nurses.

Hold your nerve and your resolve Minister and you will prevail for the common good just as Baroness Thatcher broke the Miners.
If Politicians want to lower salaries they should lead by example and take serious cuts in their own pay and conditions, simple as! Time to show real leadership and the public may get behind these decisions.
 

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Then the HSE will have to offer a salary that competes with what the agencies are paying. That's how the free market works, isn't it?

So the HSE will pay, what, double the agreed rates? The whole "pay the public sector what they would in private sector" works fine until you realise that doctors and nurses make a lot more in the private sector. The flip side of the lower public sector salary was meant to be some degree of job security. Now that that is out the window, you just end up like Zimbabwe or the UK.
 
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