Ministerial cars have cost €11m in last 2yrs

Baron von Biffo

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Cheap, populist, penny-pinching nonsense that would likely cost more to implement than the current system. If this is the level Coveney's brain operates at we should be glad he's not in with a shot at a ministry.
 


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So they are copying the UK coalition then?

Good ideas but can they do nothing original?
Would you prefer them to travel by pogo stick? That'd be original.
ffs, if they are good ideas then it doesn't matter if somebody else is doing it already. It shouldn't always be a case of "anything they can do, we can do better".
 

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The bull's driver used to be sent out to do the weekly shopping in the state car if I remember correctly, and when he dropped at the airport in Dublin, he'd have to leg it to Kerry to pick him up when the plane landed!!
 

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They can get drivers from the WPP scheme not some guard on €30 an hour
 

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Cheap, populist, penny-pinching nonsense that would likely cost more to implement than the current system. If this is the level Coveney's brain operates at we should be glad he's not in with a shot at a ministry.
Oh dear. Is von Biffo annoyed because his FF-Labour government dream he has been pushing for months has gone down the tubes, and if his secret love, FF ever get back again they won't have ministerial mercs to sit in any more.

Ah bless.

And no state car for Biffo and Bertie after the election either.

*sob* *sob*

ROTFLMAO
 

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The bull's driver used to be sent out to do the weekly shopping in the state car if I remember correctly, and when he dropped at the airport in Dublin, he'd have to leg it to Kerry to pick him up when the plane landed!!

Good old JOD, you can just imagine him opening a little book on who would get there first, the jit or the motor.

What ever happened the case where the Garda pulled the merc up on the way back from a GAA match in Croker and nobody would own up as to who was in the merc and debatable about who was actually driving, the Garda did not come out of it very well, JOD sauntered on though.
 

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So they are copying the UK coalition then?

Good ideas but can they do nothing original?
So the Irish election had happened first, would you be accusing the Tories of copying Fine Gael given that both planned to do the same thing.

Of course not.

You are just looking for something to crib about! :rolleyes:
 

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They can get drivers from the WPP scheme not some guard on €30 an hour
Interesting idea. The only requirements are good driving ability, a clean licence (obviously), no criminal convictions (presumably) and security clearance.

That rules out Cael then! :p
 

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Interesting idea. The only requirements are good driving ability, a clean licence (obviously), no criminal convictions (presumably) and security clearance.

That rules out Cael then! :p
It would also make the ministers interact with the people their decisions affect the most.
 

Expose the lot of them

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Cheap, populist, penny-pinching nonsense that would likely cost more to implement than the current system. If this is the level Coveney's brain operates at we should be glad he's not in with a shot at a ministry.
How to come to that conclusion?

5 pooled cars at €200,000 each, either sell the spare cars or exhibit them as a reminder for future voters of what FF did to the country.

Redeploy the Garda drivers back to doing what the Gardai are supposed to do.

How could that cost more than €11m to implement.
 

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They can get drivers from the WPP scheme not some guard on €30 an hour
That is one WPP scheme that would not be undersubscribed, imagine having one of those bastards at you mercy. If that was the option on the table I think they would be delighted to use public transport or drive their own cars.
 

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How to come to that conclusion?

5 pooled cars at €200,000 each, either sell the spare cars or exhibit them as a reminder for future voters of what FF did to the country.

Redeploy the Garda drivers back to doing what the Gardai are supposed to do.

How could that cost more than €11m to implement.
How did you come up with replacing 27 cars with 5?
 

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It would also make the ministers interact with the people their decisions affect the most.
That is a key point a lot of posters seem to have missed. It stops them getting out of touch.
 

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Never mind the Skoda's, give them Trabants.
 

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At the highest business levels in Ireland - almost no executive has a dedicated car and chauffeur - mostly pooling is what is done (or use of taxis, or chauffeur services)

The "bottom 10" Cabinet Ministers are in no way important, and should not be afforded the prestige of chauffeur services - public transport (including taxis, rail, flights and buses) is perfectly adequate

cYp
 

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Getting rid of ALL ministerial cars, needs to be the way to go.

These people are civil servants and need to treat the tax-payer's money, as such. Use public transport or their own vehicle with receipts for expenses.

Live like the rest of us, for God's sake.
 

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Well done. It is nice to know FG are focusing on the big ticket items.
 

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Well done. It is nice to know FG are focusing on the big ticket items.
It maybe a small thing, but part of a political reform that is needed for this country regardless of of the state of the finances and the bigger picture. Political reform is well over due and I for one want this reform to be done in parallel with all necessary budget/policy changes that are needed to get this country back on it feet.
 

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This matter of course needs addressing. There should just be a pool system. Why should each minister have 2 full time garda drivers, and when say a minister is away as FA man Martin is, his two garda drivers sit doing nothing, only card playing up in phoenix park. Garda shoulkd only be employed by Taoiseach and Minister for Justice. Remember DPP and AG also have state cars and garda drivers, as do iar thaoisigh and presidents. and ministers hould use train as they do in UK.
 


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