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Miriam OCallaghan on Brian Rossiter - wtf ?


merle haggard

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Did anyone see Miriam OCallaghans carry on last night on the Primetime piece about the death of 14 year old Brian Rossiter in garda custody ? The parents of the dead child were in the studio for interview and the very first question she went after them with was " why are you taking a civil case against the gardai ? You do know it wont bring your son back ?" . The interview carried on in a highly similar vein where throughout the only angle I could detect was Miriam OCallaghan taking the childs parents to task , politely and with sympathy oozing out of her of course , for the fact they were taking a civil action against the guards . Then she ended the interview by asking them if they themselves felt guilty over their childs death , which means Miriam was raising the possibility poor parenting was the cause of death and not the gardai ..
Im quite sure Brian Rossiters parents are all too painfully aware that their child is never coming back , that he is dead and gone for ever . Where in hell does this bloody woman get off asking them on television do they think a civil case will bring him back to life ?
It was painfully obvious from the interview that Miriam OCallaghan does not think bringing a civil case against the gardai over the death of this child is either a good idea or a positive move , or basically should happen . That was what she focused on throughout and implied throughout that such a case is a negative move by his parents.

I was absolutely disgusted by it . Youd swear it was the 1950s or something .
 


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Did anyone see Miriam OCallaghans carry on last night on the Primetime piece about the death of 14 year old Brian Rossiter in garda custody ? The parents of the dead child were in the studio for interview and the very first question she went after them with was " why are you taking a civil case against the gardai ? You do know it wont bring your son back ?" . The interview carried on in a highly similar vein where throughout the only angle I could detect was Miriam OCallaghan taking the childs parents to task , politely and with sympathy oozing out of her of course , for the fact they were taking a civil action against the guards . Then she ended the interview by asking them if they themselves felt guilty over their childs death , which means Miriam was raising the possibility poor parenting was the cause of death and not the gardai ..
Im quite sure Brian Rossiters parents are all too painfully aware that their child is never coming back , that he is dead and gone for ever . Where in hell does this bloody woman get off asking them on television do they think a civil case will bring him back to life ?
It was painfully obvious from the interview that Miriam OCallaghan does not think bringing a civil case against the gardai over the death of this child is either a good idea or a positive move , or basically should happen . That was what she focused on throughout and implied throughout that such a case is a negative move by his parents.

I was absolutely disgusted by it . Youd swear it was the 1950s or something .
Par for the course for Mims, keep the nutjobs happy. Couldn't even watch it to the end.
 

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Did anyone see Miriam OCallaghans carry on last night on the Primetime piece about the death of 14 year old Brian Rossiter in garda custody ? The parents of the dead child were in the studio for interview and the very first question she went after them with was " why are you taking a civil case against the gardai ? You do know it wont bring your son back ?" . The interview carried on in a highly similar vein where throughout the only angle I could detect was Miriam OCallaghan taking the childs parents to task , politely and with sympathy oozing out of her of course , for the fact they were taking a civil action against the guards . Then she ended the interview by asking them if they themselves felt guilty over their childs death , which means Miriam was raising the possibility poor parenting was the cause of death and not the gardai ..
Im quite sure Brian Rossiters parents are all too painfully aware that their child is never coming back , that he is dead and gone for ever . Where in hell does this bloody woman get off asking them on television do they think a civil case will bring him back to life ?
It was painfully obvious from the interview that Miriam OCallaghan does not think bringing a civil case against the gardai over the death of this child is either a good idea or a positive move , or basically should happen . That was what she focused on throughout and implied throughout that such a case is a negative move by his parents.

I was absolutely disgusted by it . Youd swear it was the 1950s or something .
She's a disgrace for what she said to the parents but i'd say she was told to ask those questions it really came accross as 'how dare you question the wonderful guards' even though a fourteen year old boy died suspiciously in their custody it seems that RTE et al won't even entertain the thought that the guards might be at fault for a child who died in their custody
 

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Did anyone see Miriam OCallaghans carry on last night on the Primetime piece about the death of 14 year old Brian Rossiter in garda custody ? The parents of the dead child were in the studio for interview and the very first question she went after them with was " why are you taking a civil case against the gardai ? You do know it wont bring your son back ?" . The interview carried on in a highly similar vein where throughout the only angle I could detect was Miriam OCallaghan taking the childs parents to task , politely and with sympathy oozing out of her of course , for the fact they were taking a civil action against the guards . Then she ended the interview by asking them if they themselves felt guilty over their childs death , which means Miriam was raising the possibility poor parenting was the cause of death and not the gardai ..
Im quite sure Brian Rossiters parents are all too painfully aware that their child is never coming back , that he is dead and gone for ever . Where in hell does this bloody woman get off asking them on television do they think a civil case will bring him back to life ?
It was painfully obvious from the interview that Miriam OCallaghan does not think bringing a civil case against the gardai over the death of this child is either a good idea or a positive move , or basically should happen . That was what she focused on throughout and implied throughout that such a case is a negative move by his parents.
I was absolutely disgusted by it . Youd swear it was the 1950s or something .
This was Proime Toime, roysh?

I'm afraid PT is normally a pointless exercise in infotainment for the chattering classes - especially with MOC at the helm. The previous programme had some kind of soft-focus, slo-mo, video-style "reconstruction" of bad behaviour in the service sector. Dire. Last night exhibited this foreboding black backdrop which had the effect of visually isolating the guests. And then the solicitous MOC in her silly chair...

PT is so self-regarding these days. Last night it seemed to be more about MOC and the Ort-ee-ee Special Effect Dept than the poor Rossiters.
 
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Did anyone see Miriam OCallaghans carry on last night on the Primetime piece about the death of 14 year old Brian Rossiter in garda custody ? The parents of the dead child were in the studio for interview and the very first question she went after them with was " why are you taking a civil case against the gardai ? You do know it wont bring your son back ?" . The interview carried on in a highly similar vein where throughout the only angle I could detect was Miriam OCallaghan taking the childs parents to task , politely and with sympathy oozing out of her of course , for the fact they were taking a civil action against the guards . Then she ended the interview by asking them if they themselves felt guilty over their childs death , which means Miriam was raising the possibility poor parenting was the cause of death and not the gardai ..
Im quite sure Brian Rossiters parents are all too painfully aware that their child is never coming back , that he is dead and gone for ever . Where in hell does this bloody woman get off asking them on television do they think a civil case will bring him back to life ?
It was painfully obvious from the interview that Miriam OCallaghan does not think bringing a civil case against the gardai over the death of this child is either a good idea or a positive move , or basically should happen . That was what she focused on throughout and implied throughout that such a case is a negative move by his parents.

I was absolutely disgusted by it . Youd swear it was the 1950s or something .
the west brits have seized the radio and tv stations ,,and the newspapers
from themselves
its a coup d,etait
 
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This was Proime Toime, roysh?

I'm afraid PT is normally a pointless exercise in infotainment for the chattering classes - especially with MOC at the helm. The previous programme had some kind of soft-focus, slo-mo, video-style "reconstruction" of bad behaviour in the service sector. Dire. Last night exhibited this foreboding black backdrop which had the effect of visually isolating the guests. And then the solicitous MOC in her silly chair...

PT is so self-regarding these days. Last night it seemed to be more about MOC and the Ort-ee-ee Special Effect Dept than the poor Rossiters.

proper gander
,west brits ,making right wing propanganda
for their west brit friends
whilst spending thousands on adverts warning us not to deny them their tv tax
aaaarrrr pee tea
 

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i was surprised she never said theres a recession on , do you not think its very unpatriotic and youll damage the economy .

14 year old kid dies in a garda cell who should not have been in a garda cell after parents are told he has taken 30 e tablets , with none found in his system . Miriam OCallaghan though is worried somebodys taking the garda to court over it .

apparently though that is what shes paid for
 

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Well said Merle. I was shouting my head off at her.

It's precisely BECAUSE their child isn't coming back they're taking a civil case.
Miriam also interjected when physical abuse was mentioned and said the allegation of physical abuse wasn't believed..

Of course it wasn't believe because if it was afforded any credibility, the meat-head Gardai would have been up for murder. And it would have been pretty hard to refute because a child had actually died.

It would have been interesting to have had a now adult man make allegations in court that he had been physically beaten by a Garda at the time of young Rossiters death.

What forensics was done in the Garda station? This was a potential crime scene.

This was like going back to the days when priests physically & sexually assaulted boys in the rapecamps that were the industrial boarding schools and the boy either died or went on to commit suicide as a result and when the next of kin made any enquiry or investigation,..... ahh sure it won't bring you're little boy back would you ever leave Father Queerass alone.

This was typical housewifey Miriam sidestepping the whole issue.

Like RTE and 9/11 truth. Why ask ANY questions? Sure it won't bring back the 3000 who died on that day ... nor the 1.5million dead Iraqi's.
 

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its precisely the same mentality as during clerical abuse a few decades ago . The gardai are an extreemly powerful instituion that like the preisthood were unquestioned in the state . MOC is of the opinion that authority shouldnt be questioned to this day . Of course its her opinion and shes entitled to it , but thats not her job which is supposed to be as an investigative journalist to get at the heart of the issues instead of insiting to bereaved parents during a televised interview they should be covered up , all the way through the interview too . absolutely disgraceful ,
 

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I could say a lot of things about this case.. but the thread would be immediately locked..

so without getting too detailed.. I'll say that what happened in this case is an absolute disgrace, and certain people, who shall remain nameless, should be in jail because of it..
 

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What a disgusting comment from M o'C. There is a certain type of person who probably thinks the poor child or his parents is to blame in all of this becasue he was a troublemaking 14 year old who didn't live with his parents.

I'm from Clonmel originally and whenever I talk to anyone back home about this a certain number seem to see this tragic case in that light.

Personally I'm also willing to believe the worst about the towns police - and yes, I speak from personal experience.
 

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I thought the remark, about how the civil suit wouldn't bring their son back, was incredibly stupid, and insensitive.

However the question about feeling guilty was slightly different. The father agreed to allow his son remain in Garda custody over night, so obviously that decision is going to stay with him for the rest of his life.

I'm not sure if the question about guilt was designed to elicit an emotional response or not, but isn't it a strange question to ask anyway?

Basically it was - Do you feel guilty that you left your son in the hands of the Gardaí?

By asking it, doesn't it imply that the Gardaí cannot be trusted to take care of people in their custody?
 

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Personnel the kid seems to have being a loose cannon the kind old man even gave up him and ok'd a stay on the cells. As far as I can say Miriam seems to be ok with her interviews and as for the case against the Guarda... people would sell their soul for any sum off money these days and that is sad.
 

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well im not surprisd because this whole affair stinks to high heaven and its pretty obvious establishment ireland doest want the truth to come out

it really is bizarre some of the people who are in an extremly dodgy postion in relation to this affair from the state pathalogist that concurred with the cocktail of drugs conclusion till the family brought in their own from outside the country when , miraculously, theres NO drugs at ALL in his system.

to mickey d who set up the terms of reference in the inquest with the limitations that prevented anyone asking "did you KILL the kid".

its fishy as ******************** and i dont think theres a person in the country that thinks the inquest was anything but in effect a whitewash.

in that light its not surprising RTE would choose to attack the family instead of their paymaster, the state.

shouldnt the REAL question be, "WHY do you have to take a civil case to get JUSTICE ?"
 

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I thought the remark, about how the civil suit wouldn't bring their son back, was incredibly stupid, and insensitive.

However the question about feeling guilty was slightly different. The father agreed to allow his son remain in Garda custody over night, so obviously that decision is going to stay with him for the rest of his life.

I'm not sure if the question about guilt was designed to elicit an emotional response or not, but isn't it a strange question to ask anyway?

Basically it was - Do you feel guilty that you left your son in the hands of the Gardaí?

By asking it, doesn't it imply that the Gardaí cannot be trusted to take care of people in their custody?
the man took the decision to let his obviously unruly son remain in a garda cell because hed allegedly been told by them that hed taken numerous ecstasy tablets and was hyper and uncontrollable . Yet his autopsy showed no trace of ecstacy in his system . So it would appear gardai engaged in some deliberate deception in order to ensure this child remained locked up for some reason known only to themselves .
 

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well im not surprisd because this whole affair stinks to high heaven and its pretty obvious establishment ireland doest want the truth to come out

it really is bizarre some of the people who are in an extremly dodgy postion in relation to this affair from the state pathalogist that concurred with the cocktail of drugs conclusion till the family brought in their own from outside the country when , miraculously, theres NO drugs at ALL in his system.

to mickey d who set up the terms of reference in the inquest with the limitations that prevented anyone asking "did you KILL the kid".

its fishy as ******************** and i dont think theres a person in the country that thinks the inquest was anything but in effect a whitewash.

in that light its not surprising RTE would choose to attack the family instead of their paymaster, the state.

shouldnt the REAL question be, "WHY do you have to take a civil case to get JUSTICE ?"
absolutely spot on
 

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Personnel the kid seems to have being a loose cannon the kind old man even gave up him and ok'd a stay on the cells. As far as I can say Miriam seems to be ok with her interviews and as for the case against the Guarda... people would sell their soul for any sum off money these days and that is sad.
Yes, this is the type of attitude i mean. Sort of "the kids death was all the parents fault, don't bother question the guards about this at all, and anyway he was no loss".

That seems to me the attitude you are adopting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm guessing that financial compensation has nothing to do with their case and wanting to find a sense of closure from the lawsuit is their motoivation. Have you no decency?
 

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Personnel the kid seems to have being a loose cannon the kind old man even gave up him and ok'd a stay on the cells.
being unruly and badly behaved and put in a cell still does not result in death in a child unless someone inflicts a fatal injury on the child , so apart from seemingly implying hes someone whos death we shouldnt care about i fail to see what your getting at . But that is what your getting at .


As far as I can say Miriam seems to be ok with her interviews
her interview wasnt ok by any means . It was grossly offensive as is your entire digusting post . This is a dead child we are talking about

and as for the case against the Guarda... people would sell their soul for any sum off money these days and that is sad.
what youve said there is absolutely disgusting to be frank about it . People will tell lies and falsify medical records to cover up the killing of a child . That has definitely happened in this case and we wouldnt have known only the parents had an independent autopsy done . Ther was no drugs in his system yet the state and gardai claimed there was before and after his death , firstly to deceive his parents into letting him stay in the cells and later after he died in them from a serious head injury and not a cocktail of drugs , of which none were present .
 

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I don't get the shock at the questions being asked of the parents. The background to this whole case is very complex with unanswered questions about the beatings the boy got in the days up to being locked up for the night, unanswerable questions by a pathologist examining the autopsy results in retrospect, the decision by the boy's father to "teach him a lesson" by leaving him in the cells, and I'm sure, other elements. So why specifically pick on the Garda for the civil suit, why not go after the people who allegedly beat him or the State pathologist...or others? I'm not slow in criticising the level of enforcement of laws in this country by the Garda but it is valid to ask these questions. The parents surely would not have gone on this show not expecting to be asked some of these questions.

As for MO'C, may be hamfisted, but has a fair batch of kids herself so would not be beyond empathy I'm sure.
 

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