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Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory

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Take a look at this clip from the movie Funny thing happened on way to moon.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HT3_X9Suec]YouTube - MOONMOVIE dot com (Funny thing happened on way to moon)[/ame]
 


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Don't say anything to Buzz Aldrin he'll punch your lights out....and rightly so!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZd30FHiBo]YouTube - Buzz Aldrin KO's Reporter[/ame]
 

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I definitely believe the moon landings were a hoax.

How did they have enough fuel to launch out of the moon's gravitational field?
 

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I definitely believe the moon landings were a hoax.

How did they have enough fuel to launch out of the moon's gravitational field?
The Lunar Module had two stages. A landing bit and a taking off bit. Separate fuel supplies.
 
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It is generally accepted that this was just an elaborate hoax enacted to mollify a gullible American public for some political reason or other, perhaps something relating to the east-west cold war debacle.

America had to be seen to assert itself as being at the forefront of science and technology. hence the Moon mission malarkey.

A former lecturer of mine who happened to view the supposed lunar landing gear at some exhibition or other, described it simply as a useless heap of junk.

It is curious that no attempt was made in the subsequent 40 years to facilitate a manned lunar mission, the reason being of course is that such an enterprise is impossible.
 
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It's not rocket science.. or maybe it is..
F=G(m1*m2)/r^2

Type in the values for the moon lander (say an optimistic 1000kg -- let's just forget about fuel), the mass of the moon (7.36 × 1022 kg), radius of the moon (1734km) and you'll see the kind of power necessary to get off the surface (bearing in mind that rocket engines are typically 50% to 60% efficient).

Now we're not booster rockets the size of those at the Kennedy Space Centre, Florida (which are gigantic), but certainly you would need booster rockets of a comparable size to a) get off the surface and b) get the orbiting module out of the moon's gravitational field.

For the size of the moon lander, the physics simply doesn't add up.
 
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It is generally accepted that this was just an elaborate hoax enacted to mollify a gullible American public for some political reason or other, perhaps something relating to the east-west cold war debacle.

America had to be seen to assert itself as being at the forefront of science and technology. hence the Moon mission malarkey.

A former lecturer of mine who happened to view the supposed lunar landing gear at some exhibition or other, described it simply as a useless heap of junk.

It is curious that no attempt was made in the subsequent 40 years to facilitate a manned lunar mission, the reason being of course is that such an enterprise is impossible.
Ah cmon - it is generally accepted.........maybe at your local tinfoil hats barbeque day maybe!

If it was such an great hoax - why did they send 7 missions to the moon - 6 getting there successfully ? - when surely one would have done eh?

and surely the Soviets would have screamed blue murder if the yanks had tried to pull a fast one on them - and they would have known seeing as we now know how thoroughly they had inflitrated the entire US Military - and what about all the both radio and vision telescopes throughout the world who were able to watch the missions proceed from A to B.

A conspiracy in broad daylight eh! - funny that there isn't a single astronomer, space engineer or phycist who doubts it isn't it - even Noam Chomsky takes it as given - have they all been paid off or threathened with Death - ask me arse lads - this is one conspiracy theory too far

As regards all the expert physicists here - how do you know the physics dont add up?
 

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Ah cmon - it is generally accepted.........maybe at your local tinfoil hats barbeque day maybe!

If it was such an great hoax - why did they send 7 missions to the moon - 6 getting there successfully ? - when surely one would have done eh?

and surely the Soviets would have screamed blue murder if the yanks had tried to pull a fast one on them - and they would have known seeing as we now know how thoroughly they had inflitrated the entire US Military - and what about all the both radio and vision telescopes throughout the world who were able to watch the missions proceed from A to B.

A conspiracy in broad daylight eh! - funny that there isn't a single astronomer, space engineer or phycist who doubts it isn't it - even Noam Chomsky takes it as given.
Yeah, try getting a faculty position in an Ivy League university with controversial public opinions on 9-11/JFK/Moon Landings.
 

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Its only a sixth of the Earths field.
not to mention it has no magnetic field, no atmosphere, which along with gravity are the main drags on a rockets upward path - getting thru tonnes and tonnes of oxygen,nitrogen and co2 takes massive effort - this simply doesn't exist on the moon.
 

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Yeah, try getting a faculty position in an Ivy League university with controversial public opinions on 9-11/JFK/Moon Landings.
David Icke probably faced the same problem when he applied for the chair of theology in Maynooth - its tough isn't it.
 

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Nearly as out landish as that whole jesus lad rising from the dead and feckin off up to heaven.
 

Baron von Biffo

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and surely the Soviets would have screamed blue murder if the yanks had tried to pull a fast one on them - and they would have known seeing as we now know how thoroughly they had inflitrated the entire US Military - and what about all the both radio and vision telescopes throughout the world who were able to watch the missions proceed from A to B.
Yip. When someone has a serious vested interest in catching you out, you'll have a serious motivation to stay honest.
 

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F=(m1*m2)/r^2

Type in the values for the moon lander (say an optimistic 1000kg -- let's just forget about fuel), the mass of the moon (7.36 × 1022 kg), radius of the moon (1734km) and you'll see the kind of power necessary to get off the surface (bearing in mind that rocket engines are typically 50% to 60% efficient).

Now we're not booster rockets the size of those at the Kennedy Space Centre, Florida (which are gigantic), but certainly you would need booster rockets of a comparable size to a) get off the surface and b) get the orbiting module out of the moon's gravitational field.

For the size of the moon lander, the physics simply doesn't add up.
You forgot the SC quotient - the stickiness of the cheese might mean that it would need more power.
 

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Ah cmon - it is generally accepted.........maybe at your local tinfoil hats barbeque day maybe!

If it was such an great hoax - why did they send 7 missions to the moon - 6 getting there successfully ? - when surely one would have done eh?

and surely the Soviets would have screamed blue murder if the yanks had tried to pull a fast one on them - and they would have known seeing as we now know how thoroughly they had inflitrated the entire US Military - and what about all the both radio and vision telescopes throughout the world who were able to watch the missions proceed from A to B.

A conspiracy in broad daylight eh! - funny that there isn't a single astronomer, space engineer or phycist who doubts it isn't it - even Noam Chomsky takes it as given - have they all been paid off or threathened with Death - ask me arse lads - this is one conspiracy theory too far

As regards all the expert physicists here - how do you know the physics dont add up?
Edo. You're a clever bloke. Before going on a tin-foil hat rant, at least analyse the figures and work out how much fuel you'll need to get off that surface and into lunar orbit.


Here's the equation for the work done by gravity on a body moving along any path C starting at a height r1 (1,700km) and ending at a height r2 (a low lunar orbit of 100km => r2=1,800km):


That's one serious rocket engine with a serious rocket fuel tank attached.
 

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Factorem - seeing we are being all sciency, would the answer not depend on the efficiency of the fuel you were using?
If it was a giant catapult it would need a very big rubber band. If it was Ronan O'Garas , about 5.8 might do it.
On the other hand if it was, say, some sort of rocket fuel, maybe that could do it?
 
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It is generally accepted that this was just an elaborate hoax enacted to mollify a gullible American public for some political reason or other, perhaps something relating to the east-west cold war debacle.
Well, perhaps amongst people with an intellectual disability, but not by anyone with an IQ above 85, I'd have thought. That excludes you of course, as anyone aware of your posting record would know......

Apollo Moon Landing hoax conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is abundant independent evidence for Apollo Moon landings and these conspiracy theories have been generally discredited. Many commentators have published detailed rebuttals to the hoax claims.[1] A 1999 poll by The Gallup Organization found that 89% of the US public believed the landings were genuine, while 6% did not, and 5% were undecided.
 
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Ah cmon - it is generally accepted.........maybe at your local tinfoil hats barbeque day maybe!
OK, then let us look forward to the next manned moon mission then, I've a feeling though, we're going to be waiting for a long long time.
 


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