More "Chandalier Socialists" than Socialist Party: Cllrs in waste of public money

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Fingal Councillors spend €9500 on photos of themselves for local buildings

Fresh on the heels of their efforts to right the problems in Fingal by forcing everyone to use Irish in future place names, it's been revealed that Fingal council have spent €9500 on photos to be used in local libraries:

Councillors defend €10,000 photoshoot in lavish stately home - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

YOU'VE heard of champagne socialists -- now meet the chandelier socialists.

Socialist Party councillors have defended posing for photos in a lavish drawing room of one of the country's finest stately homes -- but said they had no idea it cost the taxpayer almost €10,000.

Three socialist party councillors were part of a Fingal County Council photoshoot in Newbridge House in Dublin last year.


I'd personally like to compliment Clare Daly and Matthew Waine for giving it to "the man" and not bothering to dress like professionals, instead going for the socialist uniform of jeans and runners.



If you're going to cost the taxpayer 400 quid each in photos, you might at least dress appropriately you bums.

And kudos to Ms Daly for arguing the trip was justified. Never too young to work on that sense of entitlement dear. Also, just a fantastic grasp of financial terminology by agreeing that it was "a whack-load of money" A "whack-load" is of course the technical name for "excessive amount". I had to look it up.
 
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Appropriate that that the Socialist party should be in Newbridge for a Photoshoot as was used as a backdrop for "The Spy who came in from the Cold" where people fleeing from the Socialist paradise of East Germany.
 

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Hey what's the problem?

This is Ireland

These people are ENTITLED to p**s taxpayers money away. These are our best and brightest (according to BVB) with many MBAs and PhDs among them. We are lucky to have such fine people p**sing our money away for us.
 

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I'd personally like to compliment Clare Daly and Matthew Waine for giving it to "the man" and not bothering to dress like professionals, instead going for the socialist uniform of jeans and runners.



If you're going to cost the taxpayer 400 quid each in photos, you might at least dress appropriately you bums.
That is a bit harsh - at least it is a step above the PJ's of their voters.
 

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If you're going to cost the taxpayer 400 quid each in photos, you might at least dress appropriately you bums.

And kudos to Ms Daly for arguing the trip was justified. Never too young to work on that sense of entitlement dear. Also, just a fantastic grasp of financial terminology by agreeing that it was "a whack-load of money" A "whack-load" is of course the technical name for "excessive amount". I had to look it up.
Shocking. They look like total skangers that walked in off the street. Jeans FFS. I wonder what the comrades make of the 400 a pop photos?
 

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Shocking. They look like total skangers that walked in off the street. Jeans FFS. I wonder what the comrades make of the 400 a pop photos?
Don't you think that these days, the average Irish person would be more trusting of someone dressed like those Socialist councillors ahead of someone in a business suit?

That said, it's a mad waste of money. Fingal CC has very expensive modern offices in Swords they could have used for a photo shoot. No councillor should be defending this expenditure, least of all those on the left.
 

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i wonder are Claire's jeans branded or unbranded and in what conditions they were produced. I assume she paid the extra to buy a fairtrade pair?
 

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Peanuts, they have spunked away far more then that, how much does housing for 1,400 non-citizens cost the taxpayer?

Fingal County Council Minutes
CMB/49/07 SOCIAL HOUSING LIST

Question: Councillor L. Varadkar

To ask the Manager, how many people are on the housing list for Blanchardstown and the number of which who are;



(a) Irish citizens;

(b) Other EU citizens;

(c) non-EU citizens?



Reply:

2117 Social Housing applicants have expressed Blanchardstown as their first area of preference. The breakdown is as follows:



(a) Irish citizens; 733

(b) Other EU citizens 176

(c) non-EU citizens 1208
 
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The people's palace. What a joke.

Its a bit unfair but then no other party sets them up as self-annointed working class heros on a pedestal like the SP who are a fine example of why the furhter left is failing in Ireland.

If the socialist party was not so jaded in how it wants to achieve its vision then this would not be a problem, wasteful but we'd be talking about all parties not just Joe's vanguard.

But the SP live in a political dream world and when they meet reality its always going to go wrong.

Yet they never ever learn and are no further in achieving their goals today than 30 odd years ago.

What a party.
 

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It should be remembered that all the Fingal councillors were involved in this waste of money, not just the socialists.
 

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And kudos to Ms Daly for arguing the trip was justified. Never too young to work on that sense of entitlement dear. Also, just a fantastic grasp of financial terminology by agreeing that it was "a whack-load of money" A "whack-load" is of course the technical name for "excessive amount". I had to look it up.
Hate to spoil the irony-fest, but looks like the opulent location of the photoshoot had nothing to do with the cost, and Daly's defence of its use plausibly aligns with her politics:

"It is a public building, it is a historic building owned by the people," Ms Daly said when asked if it was ironic for socialists to be photographed in the mansion.
The total cost of taking the pictures, and putting 32 framed shots up in the 11 buildings, came to €9,471.
So the €10k paid for the shoot; the development, mounting and framing; and putting the photos up around the county. Still sounds a bit much but nowhere near a scandal.

The economy probably lost a lot more than €10k just by people like us reading and reacting to another piece of Independent trash.
 

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This is a hilarious thread. Seriously, first of all it's quite funny that the wasting of taxpayers money is so expected off the mainstream parties that it doesn't even warrant a mention, it's a given at this point.

As for the SP taking part in this, wouldn't have gone for it myself and it was a waste of money. As for the people saying the SP live in a dream, bizarre, I know we should all be members of FG,FF or Labour and the country would be in fantastic shape.
 
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This is a hilarious thread. Seriously, first of all it's quite funny that the wasting of taxpayers money is so expected off the mainstream parties that it doesn't even warrant a mention, it's a given at this point.

As for the SP taking part in this, wouldn't have gone for it myself and it was a waste of money. As for the people saying the SP live in a dream, bizarre, I know we should all be members of FG,FF or Labour and the country would be in fantastic shape.
Who is calling for everyone to be in the FG/FF/Labour which are as good as one party when it comes to vision.

SP do sadly live in a dream world. A dream world they have not made real in any measurable way in the real world.

I like many others, actually a very large % if you consider the TASC attitudes survey, share most of the aims of their dream.

Where I disagree with them is their never ending ability to sabotage and weaken their own project and the project of building a workable, sustainable, influential Irish left which can change Irish society. Instead they continue to operate as a party of county councillors with no policies on anything - A4 descriptions and generalisations dont and should not count.

Do you think the Sociliast Party will come up with any plans on how to help the country out of the FF and FG/Labour mess (all 3 have ruled here all have a hand in the sorry state we call the "republic").
No they wont because they dont do that type of thing. Their solution never changes. Nothing ever changes but they keep on keeping on at 2%.

But whats the worst about the SP is that they cant even evaluate the woeful failure there project is and do something about it. They just put the head down and keep on failing.

You describe yourself as a republican socialist. You of all people should be most angry at the SP. Anyone who calls themselves a socialist should be furious at the SP and their insistence on failing to deliver.

Yet If I say this you think I must be a FF. Its not me who should be pointing this out but members of the socilaist party themselves and everyone else who wants to see the left progress in Ireland.

Yet they cant. The further left is monolithic and has all the manoueuvreability of an oil tanker on issues.
 
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Whoever took the decision to rent the place and spend that much should be fired. I reckon the job (photos, framing etc) could have been done for about 4000. But, can't blame the councillors. of course you are going to turn up to the official photocall for your years as a Councillor.
 

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This is a non story. Its completely reasonable that when a new council is elected, all the councillors would be photographed, so that those images could be used in subsequent council publications. It is also completely reasonable that when the photographs were being taken, they should be taken in a building owned by the council, at no cost to the council. When it was put to the councillors that this was planned, it would be unreasonable for any of them to object.
The cost of the whole exercise seems steep, but if you know anything at all about the workings of local authorities, you would know that none of the councillors would have been involved in the selection competition for the photographic service, and none of the councillors would have known the cost.

So the real (and only) story here is how the establishment media in this country will use their power to smear groupings with which they disagree. All of the councillors did something reasonable, but three of them get picked out and slagged off for it. I'd call it a new low for the Independant group, but sadly, it isn't close to a new low for them.
 
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This is a non story. Its completely reasonable that when a new council is elected, all the councillors would be photographed, so that those images could be used in subsequent council publications. It is also completely reasonable that when the photographs were being taken, they should be taken in a building owned by the council, at no cost to the council. When it was put to the councillors that this was planned, it would be unreasonable for any of them to object.
The cost of the whole exercise seems steep, but if you know anything at all about the workings of local authorities, you would know that none of the councillors would have been involved in the selection competition for the photographic service, and none of the councillors would have known the cost.

So the real (and only) story here is how the establishment media in this country will use their power to smear groupings with which they disagree. All of the councillors did something reasonable, but three of them get picked out and slagged off for it. I'd call it a new low for the Independant group, but sadly, it isn't close to a new low for them.

The Independent is always in search of new lows.

As to why the SP is picked out. Simple its because the SP set themselves us as flawless working class heros and here is them in the middle of it all larging it up at an event they really didnt need to be at. Its the type of thing they would crucify everyone else for (and by the way I think the whole exercise is pointless and self-important by the council) but at the end of the day they are there in the middle of a self-aggrandising photo shoot payed by the tax payer.

Pure as the driven snow but not even able to say no to a photo shoot.

If they didnt play at revolution then people wouldnt laugh at them a when this article came out.


As regards Establishment media. You know it and I know it that the media is entirely in the service of narrow interests in this country. The Socialist Party knows it as well. But seeing as how they are not much good at effectively challenging those interests then they can hardly gripe now. A handful of councillors and one rotating TD/MEP hardly rocks the media establishment does it. But sure blame the obvious self-interest of the media and absolve all the failings of those who would challenge it.
 

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This is ridiculous. There were 3 SP councillors, none of whom were involved in choosing or approving the photgrapher, costing or location of the photo-shoot, who got their picture taken as members of the Council which is customary, and while it's true the cost is far too much, only 3 councillors have been singled out by the Indo for attention. If they had refused to go the headline would read that they had no respect for the democratic wishes of the electorate by refusing to engage with the process and you'd have the same people on here whinging about it. You just can't keep some people happy. I expect a similar level of interest and scrutiny from the Indo when the Moriarty report is released with full coverage of Denis O'Briens role in it and the costs that has put onto the shoulders of the taxpayer.
 

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This is ridiculous. There were 3 SP councillors, none of whom were involved in choosing or approving the photgrapher, costing or location of the photo-shoot, who got their picture taken as members of the Council which is customary, and while it's true the cost is far too much, only 3 councillors have been singled out by the Indo for attention. If they had refused to go the headline would read that they had no respect for the democratic wishes of the electorate by refusing to engage with the process and you'd have the same people on here whinging about it.
I sure that they could get a full support from public as soon as they released total cost of this photo to taxpayer
Unfortunately, it looks that SP is not much different from other parties - just different sauce for populism
 

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Is that All You Got Tony?

Three Fingal CC Socialist Party Cllrs were among those that partook in a Fingal CC photo call at Newbridge House that cost the taxpayer €10k. I do not know if they suggested that the public should do the photographic equivalent of eating cake but the 'Chandalier Socialists Party' should be reminded of it when it comes to the General Election.

Councillors defend €10,000 photoshoot in lavish stately home - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie
Fianna Fail and Fine Gael councillors wreck the country through corrupt land rezoning that will cost the country tens of billions.

Fingal county council pay 10000 euro for photographs of each and every councillor, including three socialist councillers which cost roughly 1600 euro. What a non story. There are porkies in government that could chow through 1600 euro in a single sitting!

If that's all that Tony O Reillys bottom feeding Independent can come up with against these three then they'll get my vote.
 
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