More NATO aggression. It should be disbanded

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First there was "Anakonda 2016"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/06/nato-launches-largest-war-game-in-eastern-europe-since-cold-war-anaconda-2016

Now The latest in Poland
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news-comment/2362-who-s-driving-the-latest-nato-exercises


I'm getting really tired of the Orwellian justifications for having thousands of troops and tanks on Russian borders. Aren't you? The Soviet union fell many years ago. The warsaw pact is now merely a note in History. According to Obama himself, "Russia is a second rate power". That may be true, however it still retains the ability to retaliate with nuclear countermeasures if it is attacked. So why is NATO always up in it's grille?

Do the idiots behind this defunct and vestigial military organisation continue baiting the bear and ramping up unnecessary nuclear tensions all the time merely to justify their own large salaries, huge weapons sales, and NATOs own existence when we all know their actual raison d'etre has long passed?

Is this once useful organisation now doing the very thing it was set up to try and avoid,
i.e. increasing the risk of nuclear war?

Is it now time to disband NATO before these expensive "war games" on the Russian border get further out of hand in a dangerous climate of cold war hysteria, russophobia and fake news?
 
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given that Obama is lame duck cant he just do a sh1t in some hidden corner of Trump's new bedroom instead of leaving this steaming turd for him.
 

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NATO is a protection racket run by the military industrial complex.
 

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Could be interesting to see what happens around the bromance between PresiDonald and Putin.

Wouldn't surprise me if PresiDon announced US scaling back of funding for NATO. Everyone knows the Americans can't keep paying for it and despite US Presidents over the last ten to fifteen years trying to strongarm Europe into paying for it while the US runs it from the Pentagon no-one is interested in stumping up.
 

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Well judging by the camouflage paint on those vehicles and the movement in broad daylight I'd say that caper is put on entirely for the satellite cameras.
 

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Wouldn't surprise me if PresiDon announced US scaling back of funding for NATO. .
He would not be able to do without carrying both houses. The president is not an all powerful office that can do as it pleases, as Obama and all the others before him have found out - and that's a probably a good thing.

NATO is going nowhere, & certainly not because of any little mutual admiration thing between Trump & Putin - & no matter how much the credulous Russia Today viewers on here over excite themselves at the idea.
 

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Wrong Camo!

Which means this is a media event.
This exercise would have been over a year in planning, and involves the deployment of troops from the continental United States so will be nothing to do with Obama leaving office.

It would not be cost effective to repaint thousands of vehicles and equipment simply for a short term exercise.

It does however send a message to Russia about annexing anymore neighbors.
 

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With the Russians, as with the Chinese, being weak is more likely to provoke war than being strong.
 
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Could be interesting to see what happens around the bromance between PresiDonald and Putin.

Wouldn't surprise me if PresiDon announced US scaling back of funding for NATO. Everyone knows the Americans can't keep paying for it and despite US Presidents over the last ten to fifteen years trying to strongarm Europe into paying for it while the US runs it from the Pentagon no-one is interested in stumping up.
He stumped on all members paying their fair share. This does not seem possible for some members, so a new accounting of what the "fair share" could (and should) be in order.
 

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No, I am excluding US bases and deployments that are non NATO, U.S. unilateral deployments, or those that are part of other treaty organizations.

Just because the U.S. (or any member state) is a member of NATO, does not mean everything it's military does is a NATO operation. NATO is a fixed orgaization with it's own specific command structure.

For example the UK is a NATO member, but the Falklands war was not a NATO conflict and the bases there are not NATO bases - NATO command has no authority over them.

Labeling all American bases as NATO bases is disingenuous and usually done by the likes of Russia Today.
 
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It is called the bouncer agenda.

NATO needs to create a crisis via sggressiveness so as to justify it's access to resources at everybody else's expense.
 

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Putin is a fascist ...all countries near him are scared

He put tactical nukes in Kaliningrad

There is no aggression in the troop rotation ...the invasion of Georgia, Ukraine etc...is aggression

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This exercise would have been over a year in planning, and involves the deployment of troops from the continental United States so will be nothing to do with Obama leaving office.

It would not be cost effective to repaint thousands of vehicles and equipment simply for a short term exercise.

It does however send a message to Russia about annexing anymore neighbors.
Is there any way of stopping Washington from installing puppet regimes in Venezuela ?
 


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