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Musical Expressions of Unrest in Ireland


RepublicOfLuas

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Never been a fan of Hip Hop/Rap, probably due to the amount of puke that I was exposed to on MTV as a kid/teenager, but Hip Hop and Rap have often been associated with social unrest within the black community in the United States. Apart from rebel songs and the odd song from some punks in the late 70s (Radiators from Space et al..), there's never been much politicized commercial music in the Irish music scene.
Are Irish rappers now the true artistic voice of the disgruntled every-day Irish men and women?


Some funny lines along with some hard hitting truths.
[video=youtube;D0_cCydHsGM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_cCydHsGM[/video]
 

ruserious

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My own Christmas Jingle for the times:

Slashing through the debt,
In a German frame of mind,
O'er the people we go,
Laughing all the way (hah hah hah)
Placing turf-quotas on Ming,
Making children Fright,
What fun it is to slash and burn,
A Euro-song tonight.


Euro Bonds, Euro Bonds,
Austerity all the way,
Oh! what fun, it is to ride,
In a cash-cow gravy train.
Euro Bonds, Euro Bonds,
Austerity all the way,
Oh! what fun, it is to ride,
In a cash-cow gravy train.

[video=youtube;ujkMx7mmLdM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujkMx7mmLdM&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 

Hitch 22

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Hip Hop is sh*te and only tracksuited knacker scum listen to it.

Any Irish protest song to get off the ground would have to follow the air of a traditional ballad.

[video=youtube;tvECtlJQ4dU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvECtlJQ4dU[/video]

[video=youtube;jxv-4eeiQfw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxv-4eeiQfw[/video]

[video=youtube;LgwQcUhKceg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgwQcUhKceg[/video]
 
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the odd song from some punks in the late 70s (Radiators from Space et al..), there's never been much politicized commercial music in the Irish music scene.
Banana Republic was a good effort from that post punk/new wave scene

The Boomtown Rats - Banana Republic - Vidéo Dailymotion

Not sure if Belfast Child counts. Not an Irish band, and guess it was a bit more of an ode to the Troubles and society in one corner of the island than the social problems down here.

Wasn't Pet Shop Boys "Suburbia" supposed to be about joy riding in Dublin, or was that an urban myth?
 

Hitch 22

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Musical taste is subjective.
Hip Hop IS sh*te.

That's a lie, and you know it.
If you are going to create protest songs they have to capture the imagination of broader Irish society. That means you have to appeal to your average mass going overcoat, patterned jumper, slacks and brogue wearing rural type.

We aren't a bunch of "niggas in yo jacuzzis wid ya nakked bitches an yo trigger fingas on yo Uzis."
 

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Hip hop is shi te to be fair
Thats because you havent a clue how to find good music.

Here is list of good stuff.. ie no bling and bitches
J.Dilla,Slum Village, Pharcyde, Del, AZ, Souls of Mischief, Dilated Peoples, A Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, Jurassic-5, Pharoahe.Monch

And im not even a big hip hop fan.. Oh yeah. All trad is ************************e.:rolleyes:
 

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I suspect the 'music industry' as it is (part of the wider global 'establishment') ensures any controversial or politically motivated music doesn't get too much exposure...

Having said that the quality of songs and lyrics that address these things tend to be sh!te... I had the misfortune of seeing Billy Bragg at a festival a few years back... bloody awful crap...

What has been disappointing though... for me at least, has been the apparent apathy of the younger generation today, not only in Ireland, but globally...

They seem more than willing to buy into the X Factor and sing a load of vacuous crap about 'love' and 'feelings' than they do about anything else...

They seem to have bought into the rotten 'system' as it is hook line and sinker, and are more like drones than anything else. I cannot understand why they are not a lot angrier than they seem to be about what's been done to them and their futures...

As for political music in Ireland... most of it is sh!te imo... and doesn't venture far from either tedious rebel song boll*cks or maudling victim obsessed sh!te about oppression and the potato famine etc.

The world has moved on from that...
 

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Hip Hop IS sh*te.



If you are going to create protest songs they have to capture the imagination of broader Irish society. That means you have to appeal to your average mass going overcoat, patterned jumper, slacks and brogue wearing rural type.

We aren't a bunch of "niggas in yo jacuzzis wid ya nakked bitches an yo trigger fingas on yo Uzis."
Scary Eire - The Dole Q - YouTube
 

RepublicOfLuas

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Hip Hop IS sh*te.



If you are going to create protest songs they have to capture the imagination of broader Irish society. That means you have to appeal to your average mass going overcoat, patterned jumper, slacks and brogue wearing rural type.

We aren't a bunch of "niggas in yo jacuzzis wid ya nakked bitches an yo trigger fingas on yo Uzis."
If that's your perception of what Hip Hop is, then you have no credibility when it comes to criticizing it for being "************************e". Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's ************************e. I might say Jedward are ************************e, which a lot of people agree with, but they are doing a job, and doing their job correctly because people are buying their product.
 

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J.Dilla,Slum Village, Pharcyde, Del, AZ, Souls of Mischief, Dilated Peoples, A Tribe Called Quest, Brand Nubian, Jurassic-5, Pharoahe.Monch

And im not even a big hip hop fan.. Oh yeah. All trad is ************************e.:rolleyes:
Wouldn't say all trad, but certainly would prefer A Tribe Called Quest and others to some fellow playing an accordion!
 

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We aren't a bunch of "niggas in yo jacuzzis wid ya nakked bitches an yo trigger fingas on yo Uzis."
,,,,by the same logic all trad is "diddly-eye, dee-die, all the Bristish are B@st@rds...dee-diee, dee-dee, sure didn't we only have a famine because they ate all our potatoooooohhhhs...dee-dee"

Open up to something new!!!..you might actually suprise yourself.
 

statsman

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Now this is political music worth listening to.

[video=youtube;pZRBfRXJyak]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZRBfRXJyak[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;qLo7z50Tt2g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLo7z50Tt2g[/video]
 
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