Myanmar denies ethnic cleansing of Muslim minority



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You're vocabulary seems to cloak a lot of horror and terror under the words 'slightly excessive'.

Killing children, raping women? That's 'slightly excessive' is it?
There's no defending the crimes committed by the security forces in Myanmar, but they need to be put into the proper context of yet another Islamic terror campaign which has claimed many innocent lives. What do you think about the terrorism committed by the Rohingyas? No issues with that?
 

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First page in, & somebody is motivated to defend the lunar cult with a guilt trip.




The founders of Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism did not
- murder another human being
- advocate murdering other human beings
- advocate enslaving non-believers
- rape women
- marry pre-pubescent girls
- marry his daughter in law after he had her husband killed
- advocate murdering those who escaped the cult.

That is a big matter of difference.

It can not be ignored - except by the most ignorant.
The government of Myanmar are fully aware of this evil and what is coming down the tracks if they don't do something about it soon. They are not constrained by the legions of idiots that exist in western countries that would have you believe that all religions are qualitatively the same. Some religions are worse than others and the widespread practice of it within any country will always lead to chaos. States have an obligation to their citizens to stop the spread of such malignant influences.
 

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There's no defending the crimes committed by the security forces in Myanmar, but they need to be put into the proper context of yet another Islamic terror campaign which has claimed many innocent lives. What do you think about the terrorism committed by the Rohingyas? No issues with that?
I'm not going to approve of terrorism from any quarter, nor am I going to use weasel words to minimize rape, child murder, destruction of homes, the murder of men, women and children, the driving of people from their homes etc. When you start downplaying widespread brutality your moral compass is going to be degraded. Is wholesale lashing out at entire communities a justifiable response to terrorism?

 

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You want the same article in a newspaper?

Knock yourself out:

The op link is to RTE. Oh so you feel sufficiently insulated by having read it from the guardian, to ignore a core aspect of doctrine inspired motive in one side of a long running sectarian conflict in Myanmar. Something which is not referenced in the link.

The article is not accounting sufficiently for the religious motivation in the conflict.

It presents it as merely incidental. It is actually central to what is going on.
 

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The op link is to RTE. Oh so you feel sufficiently insulated by having read it from the guardian, to ignore a core aspect of doctrine inspired motive in one side of a long running sectarian conflict in Myanmar. Something which is not referenced in the link.

The article is not accounting sufficiently for the religious motivation in the conflict.

It presents it as merely incidental. It is actually central to what is going on.
And the way that the Rohingya are perceived and described by the people killing them isn't central to what's going on?
 

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I'm not going to approve of terrorism from any quarter, nor am I going to use weasel words to minimize rape, child murder, destruction of homes, the murder of men, women and children, the driving of people from their homes etc. When you start downplaying widespread brutality your moral compass is going to be degraded. Is wholesale lashing out at entire communities a justifiable response to terrorism?

That whole article relies on a sob story and inflates the amount of Rohingyas being killed in the counter terrorist operation. I'll take it with more than a pinch of salt, thanks.

You say that you disapprove of terror campaigns, but what do you suggest be done about this problem that has persisted from that cohort of the population for so long?
 

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That whole article relies on a sob story and inflates the amount of Rohingyas being killed in the counter terrorist operation. I'll take it with more than a pinch of salt, thanks.

You say that you disapprove of terror campaigns, but what do you suggest be done about this problem that has persisted from that cohort of the population for so long?
You mean the cohort of the population that aren't recognised as 'real citizens'? That are described by state officials as 'illegal immigrants'? Can you see anything about that that might be contributing to any problems?
 

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You mean the cohort of the population that aren't recognised as 'real citizens'? That are described by state officials as 'illegal immigrants'? Can you see anything about that that might be contributing to any problems?
This is a very long running ethno-religious conflict. These conflicts are notoriously difficult to settle.
 

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So driving tens of thousands from ther homes, and killing men, women and children and raping women in the process, constitutes what, exactly, in your book?

How do you define ethnic cleansing?

Is it ethnic cleansing maybe maybe not not nearly enough evidence at this stage. One thing that amazes me is that the Govt of the former East Pakistan seem to always get absolved from any guilt in this whole process when they are and historically have been immersed in it. This whole episode also smacks of icon bashing the international media made AS out to be a hero and transformer only to now discover that she can only partially control the Burmese military. What else did they expect.
 

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This is a very long running ethno-religious conflict. These conflicts are notoriously difficult to settle.
That in no way justifies the deplorable behaviour of the Burmese government.

I'm deeply disappointed by Ang San Suu Kyi's silence on these crimes. She does everything she can to avoid talking about it because she knows Burma is in the wrong.
 

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Now there's a change. Some other group ethnically cleansing muslims. Usually it's the other way around.
 

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Religious labels are simple and convenient for identifying the 'other' and therefore lesser people. The fact that the religion of the victims might be seen as nasty (Islam in this case) and that of the aggressors seen as benign (Buddhism in this case) should be irrelevant to seeing what is going on and in Myanmar it is ethnic cleansing - a population being driven from its home by state terror.
 

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