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Leinsterview

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Sorry, Northern Ireland: the truth is, we are just not that into you . . . - Independent.ie

Different countries. Different people. Let's keep it that way.

The wish is the father of the thought!
This is the sort of tendentious output from a ceratin stream of Southern journalism that I find intensely irritating. There is the spurious conflation of the concepts of 'I' and 'we'; this is how I O'D sees it -- therefore it is also how everyone else sees it. The article -- if you read it carefully -- is all about the externalisation and generalisation of the author's personal prejudices. Hopes that this particular fringe school of journalism -- cultivated by the Indo/Sindo -- would abate with their transfer from O'Reilly proprietorship have faded. There is no doubt that the collective mind of this particular cadre has been concentrated wonderfully by AE17 and the consequent transition of the UI concept from the nebulous to the tangible. Hence the cynical attempts to hype up differences between, and drive a wedge between, North and South. A raw nerve has been touched.
Ian, if you are reading this why not put your implicit hypothesis that you speak for Southerners to the test?: stand for election and see how far you get.
 
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between the bridges

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Furious mexicant fury...
 

eoghanacht

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Tick tick.

Events dear boy, events.
 

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It is merely a realisation that many of us feel no more kinship with Northerners than we do with Welsh or Scottish or English people.
Nonsense. When an Englishman, a Unionist and a southerner sit together (a common situation in my previous line of work) the two Irish have far more to talk about and the Englishman feels the outsider.


Then there are the economic realities - a united Ireland would mean a poorer Republic and a poorer Northern Ireland. It would place an unworkable financial burden on any new government.
Willfully ignores the economic benefits of unification, and success cases like Germany.
 

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There's a rule against linking Ian O'Doherty articles on this site.

Isn't there?
 

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There's a rule against linking Ian O'Doherty articles on this site.

Isn't there?
More of an ethical imperative. Same goes for Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson etc.

Being charitable, I call them "professional contrarians", there to contradict the mainstream narrative whether the facts suggest it or not. Not so charitably, they are there to confirm their self-righteous fans' suspicions that terrorists/immigrants/socialists perverts/criminals/Other are being pandered to.
 

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Sorry, Northern Ireland: the truth is, we are just not that into you . . . - Independent.ie

Different countries. Different people. Let's keep it that way.

The wish is the father of the thought!
This is the sort of tendentious output from a ceratin stream of Southern journalism that I find intensely irritating. There is the spurious conflation of the concepts of 'I' and 'we'; this is how I O'D sees it -- therefore it is also how everyone else sees it. The article -- if you read it carefully -- is all about the externalisation and generalisation of the author's personal prejudices. Hopes that this particular fringe school of journalism -- cultivated by the Indo/Sindo -- would abate with their transfer from O'Reilly proprietorship have faded. There is no doubt that the collective mind of this particular cadre has been concentrated wonderfully by AE17 and the consequent transition of the UI concept from the nebulous to the tangible. Hence the cynical attempts to hype up differences between, and drive a wedge between, North and South. A raw nerve has been touched.
Ian, if you are reading this why not put your imlicit hypothesis that you speak for Southerners to the test?: stand for election and see how far you get.
Sorry Indo and Sindo and O Doherty, I don't buy your paper, and if it is given to me free it ends up in the recycling bin.
 

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More of an ethical imperative. Same goes for Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson etc.

Being charitable, I call them "professional contrarians", there to contradict the mainstream narrative whether the facts suggest it or not. Not so charitably, they are there to confirm their self-righteous fans' suspicions that terrorists/immigrants/socialists perverts/criminals/Other are being pandered to.
He's the irish version of a shockjock, isn't he?
Mind, if he plays his cards right he could possibly become president one day.
 

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Are there sane people who take O'Doherty seriously ?
 

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Sorry, Northern Ireland: the truth is, we are just not that into you . . . - Independent.ie

Different countries. Different people. Let's keep it that way.

The wish is the father of the thought!
This is the sort of tendentious output from a ceratin stream of Southern journalism that I find intensely irritating. There is the spurious conflation of the concepts of 'I' and 'we'; this is how I O'D sees it -- therefore it is also how everyone else sees it. The article -- if you read it carefully -- is all about the externalisation and generalisation of the author's personal prejudices. Hopes that this particular fringe school of journalism -- cultivated by the Indo/Sindo -- would abate with their transfer from O'Reilly proprietorship have faded. There is no doubt that the collective mind of this particular cadre has been concentrated wonderfully by AE17 and the consequent transition of the UI concept from the nebulous to the tangible. Hence the cynical attempts to hype up differences between, and drive a wedge between, North and South. A raw nerve has been touched.
Ian, if you are reading this why not put your imlicit hypothesis that you speak for Southerners to the test?: stand for election and see how far you get.


Sorry Leinsterview but I do not know what all your rage and fury is actually about - the link shows it is something by Ian O'Doherty but we cannot see what he actually wrote because the Irish Independent now have their Comment/Opinion columns hidden behind a pay-wall.
 

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Sorry, Northern Ireland: the truth is, we are just not that into you . . . - Independent.ie

Different countries. Different people. Let's keep it that way.


The wish is the father of the thought!
This is the sort of tendentious output from a ceratin stream of Southern journalism that I find intensely irritating. There is the spurious conflation of the concepts of 'I' and 'we'; this is how I O'D sees it -- therefore it is also how everyone else sees it. The article -- if you read it carefully -- is all about the externalisation and generalisation of the author's personal prejudices. Hopes that this particular fringe school of journalism -- cultivated by the Indo/Sindo -- would abate with their transfer from O'Reilly proprietorship have faded. There is no doubt that the collective mind of this particular cadre has been concentrated wonderfully by AE17 and the consequent transition of the UI concept from the nebulous to the tangible. Hence the cynical attempts to hype up differences between, and drive a wedge between, North and South. A raw nerve has been touched.
Ian, if you are reading this why not put your imlicit hypothesis that you speak for Southerners to the test?: stand for election and see how far you get.
The worst in journalism always abuse the giant 'we'. It basically means they cannot make a point by deduction/facts/opinions and instead reach for the concensus word.
 

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More of an ethical imperative. Same goes for Katie Hopkins, Jeremy Clarkson etc.

Being charitable, I call them "professional contrarians", there to contradict the mainstream narrative whether the facts suggest it or not. Not so charitably, they are there to confirm their self-righteous fans' suspicions that terrorists/immigrants/socialists perverts/criminals/Other are being pandered to.
I've no idea who the pr1ck quoted in the Irish Independent actually is, but Clarkson is a drunken criminal yob, & as for Katie Horseface, well how might one put this....I normally try to be charitable about other human beings' physical shortcomings, but I make a special exception for her - her abominably ugly views are of course perfectly matched by her looks and she's an ideal masthead for the legions of ugly-bastard-fascist-mingers who share them, Allah bless 'em, and circumcise their sausages! :)
 

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Sorry Leinsterview but I do not know what all your rage and fury is actually about - the link shows it is something by Ian O'Doherty but we cannot see what he actually wrote because the Irish Independent now have their Comment/Opinion columns hidden behind a pay-wall.
Unfortunately, AFAIK, quoting the whole article would infringe copyright and disconcert the mods.
 


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