National Broadband - is this amazing leadership, electioneering or a corrupt waste of tax - what do you think?

The NBP as is currently proposed looks like a bad deal for the tax payers

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 75.0%
  • No

    Votes: 7 25.0%

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Dame_Enda

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Do we know who the shareholders are in the Granahan-McCourt consortium?
 

hiding behind a poster

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But if Eir get the contract will there be room for Siteserv/Actavo?
They're one of the biggest infrastructure firms in the country, so there's a reasonable chance Eir use them already. What's your point?
 

ON THE ONE ROAD

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Every second person has a horror story about their customer service, but they have just completed the installation of over 300,000 of these exact rural fibre broadbands on time and within budget so they know how to do this work and they aren't going to be duplicating their own work like the other crowd are planning to do.
They took the low hanging fruit. Fair play to them, but the reason they aren't doing the rest of their own bat is because it is challenging. A half to a billion of government money, not their own. The comparison isn't as neat as is made out. If it was eir wouldn't be waiting for an invitation.
 

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They took the low hanging fruit. Fair play to them, but the reason they aren't doing the rest of their own bat is because it is challenging. A half to a billion of government money, not their own. The comparison isn't as neat as is made out. If it was eir wouldn't be waiting for an invitation.
Thats not entirely true. they didn't take all the low hanging fruit. They had a fixed budget and 300,000 approx was all they could do. I think they have said another 150K is commercial also.
 

ON THE ONE ROAD

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Thats not entirely true. they didn't take all the low hanging fruit. They had a fixed budget and 300,000 approx was all they could do. I think they have said another 150K is commercial also.
That's playing with words.

The point was
Using the 300, 000 as an example for the roll out of broadband in the intervention area does not work. One was commercially viable, they are prepared to invest their own money.
The other is challenging, they say they can do it on the states money for half to a billion. Notice the difference and if can believe it I have a few things to sell you.

The objective of the state is to get every home access to a minimum of 30mbps. There is about half a million premises that do not have that at the moment.

The state can't stop eir taking another 150k under state aid rules, it can't even stop them taking the full 500k. It would be doing the state a favour if it done all of it with out any cost to the state. It won't though, and it has told the state it won't on the terms the state wants.
 

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It is a complete waste of taxpayers money and this deal should be ceased before legal agreements are signed.
 

ON THE ONE ROAD

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It is a complete waste of taxpayers money and this deal should be ceased before legal agreements are signed.
How do you propose business in this state will compete with business in other neighbouring states when they get this superior infrastructure built and we don't.

Its a communication channel. How can drastically improving the communications infrastructure in the state be a waste.


Saying fibre is a waste is like some forgotten roman saying there is no point building all those roads.
 

Baron von Biffo

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How do you propose business in this state will compete with business in other neighbouring states when they get this superior infrastructure built and we don't.

Its a communication channel. How can drastically improving the communications infrastructure in the state be a waste.


Saying fibre is a waste is like some forgotten roman saying there is no point building all those roads.
It's not so much an issue with the technology but the idea of providing services beyond the M50 that's causing such angst.
 


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