NATO & EU Member-state Bulgaria Elects Pro-Russian President - what's going on in the Balkans?

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The Bulgarian presidential election took place on November 14th. It's time someone started a thread on this - and other events in the Balkans in recent times.

As official results confirm, Rumen Radev will become Bulgaria’s next president while the ruling government has resigned. Radev, the former commander of Bulgaria’s Air Force, is a relative newcomer to politics and is supported by the opposition Socialist Party.

His election is seen as a boost for Russia and a let down to western allies, as he is considered to be Russia-friendly. Radov has called for an end to EU sanctions against Russia. He has also expressed his interest in balancing Bulgaria’s commitments to the European Union and NATO, while maintaining a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia.
Socialist Rumen Radev is Bulgaria's new president

On the same day Moldova, which is a member of neither the EU nor NATO, elected a pro-Moscow candidate

A pro-Russian candidate for president of Moldova has won the race, preliminary results showed on Sunday, following a campaign in which he vowed to slam the brakes on seven years of closer integration with the European Union.
With 98 percent of votes counted, online results showed Socialist candidate Igor Dodon had won 54 percent, and his pro-European challenger, Maia Sandu, had just under 45 percent.
Pro-Russian candidate triumphs in Moldova presidential race | Reuters

The week prior to the Bulgarian election an alleged coup against Milo Ðjukanović, the pro-EU leader of Montenegro, was foiled, as was a suspected assassination plot against the pro-EU Serbian prime-minister, Aleksandar Vučić. The Montenegrin plot has been linked to the Russian security-services and a number of Russian nationals were allegedly deported by Belgrade.

Serbia deports Russians suspected of plotting Montenegro coup

The region has witnessed massive columns of mainly Muslim refugees/migrants from the Middle East and beyond. The EU has been toothless in the face of the crisis. Meanwhile Russia has been defending Christians and other religious minorities from genocide in Syria, in the face of dire threats from western countries. The populations of Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Macedonia, Romania and Moldova (like the Christian minorities in the Middle East) are predominantly Orthodox Christian. All of these countries were subject to centuries of Ottoman oppression in the past. During these times Orthodox Russia was viewed as a protector / liberator. Recent events would appear to indicate a revival in such sentiment.

NATO has in recent times intervened against the Serbs - and in favour of Muslims - in Kosovo and Bosnia, both of which are still potentially volatile, as is Macedonia, which witnessed an insurgency among the (predominantly Muslim) Albanian minority in 2001. Meanwhile the EU - and Germany in particular - is perceived as having hung the Greeks out to dry, at a time in which their Aegean islands are being overwhelmed by refugees/migrants arriving from Turkey.

Three weeks ago the Turkish dictator Erdogan made provocative territorial claims about islands in the Aegean.
Turkish President Erdogan: East Aegean Islands Belong to Turkey! | GreekReporter.com

Will the Balkans provide the setting for the next proxy-war between Russia, Turkey and the west?
 


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Moldova seems to be a clear case of there being a huge drain of the more pro West under 45 demographic out of the country and most of the SC left there being more mindful of the good old days.
 

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Putin has successfully rebranded Russia as a defender of Christian and European civilisation. Meanwhile the clowns in Brussels are committed to turning Europe into a multicultural nightmare and haven for Islam.
 

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Bulgaria wants access to a market of 140m consumers, and doesn't want a war. Being 'pro-Russia' is common sense.
 

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Putin has successfully rebranded Russia as a defender of Christian and European civilisation. Meanwhile the clowns in Brussels are committed to turning Europe into a multicultural nightmare and haven for Islam.
It is the Balkans tragedy to have been thus afflicted with war for millennia, and it doesn't look as if its going to change any time soon.
 

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Here's the full quote from the Sultan of the Bosphorous.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was provocative in statements made concerning the islands of the east Aegean that are under Greek ownership according to the terms of the Lausanne Treaty. Speaking on the occasion of 93 years since the creation of the Turkish Democracy, Erdogan said that these islands belong to Turkey. “I am giving a history lesson here. I spoke of the Lausanne Treaty and people were bothered. Why? The islands under our noses, I am shouting that these are our islands,” said Erdogan. “I am yelling that these are our islands. At these islands we have our history, our monuments, our mosques. They are still bothered when we say it. Why?”
Sounds like he envisages a new Ottoman Empire.
 

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AFAIK Bulgaria was the closest of The Eastern European client states to The Soviet Union and One of its nutter leaders even wanted to make it the 16th Republic!
 

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Putin has successfully rebranded Russia as a defender of Christian and European civilisation. Meanwhile the clowns in Brussels are committed to turning Europe into a multicultural nightmare and haven for Islam.
Sure, "successfully" only in the eyes of those who haven't paid attention to his blasphemous false comparison of the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism to the Ten Commandments. Although compared to the EU, he might be. If you ignore his open co-operation with Iran and all that. The EU can be characterised as slightly further left on the utopian-socialist scale, for now.

The Islamist problem in the EU is a means to an end. They want more power and more sovereignty, and of course that EU military they've been pushing for decades. And they're willing to cause even worse crises to get it.
 

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The EUs vision has seemingly become less appealing to some easterners. We would want to reform our vision quicksmart or we could end up being a glorious and rapid failure. How could we be appealing when we sign up to anti-democratic deals like TTIP and CETA?
Only speculation of course but it must seem very alienating to Eastern Europeans when they look at the EU commission and multiple presidents and the apparatchik signing up to deals no-one on the ground likes the look of at all.
 

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Remember the photos of the room in Brussels where there were security guards told not to allow journalists to take notes of the TTIP detail from publications grudgingly made available under strict conditions that no-one could take one away and study it.

It was like something out of 1984. If that is the intended style of the European federal project they can shove it.
 

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The EUs vision has seemingly become less appealing to some easterners. We would want to reform our vision quicksmart or we could end up being a glorious and rapid failure. How could we be appealing when we sign up to anti-democratic deals like TTIP and CETA?
Only speculation of course but it must seem very alienating to Eastern Europeans when they look at the EU commission and multiple presidents and the apparatchik signing up to deals no-one on the ground likes the look of at all.
It's not the silliest of speculation we have seen here by a long shot.

Why do we distrust Russia, is it because it is secretive, quasi democratic, favours cliques, is expansionist, discourages dissent and sets out to punish and make examples of other countries? Or am I confusing it with the EU?
 

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The era of the western empires is ending. Both the US and the EU's world domination are on the wane and the new kids on the block are the BRICs countries, specifically Russia and China. Hopefully they will be based more on economic cooperation, science and human development rather then the corporate greed of our present masters.

It is natural that small countries, that were obliged to join the EU when it was in its growth stage, would now shift allegiance. Bulgaria and the others owe no more loyalty to Brussels than the Gauls did to Rome.
 

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The era of the western empires is ending. Both the US and the EU's world domination are on the wane and the new kids on the block are the BRICs countries, specifically Russia and China. Hopefully they will be based more on economic cooperation, science and human development rather then the corporate greed of our present masters.

It is natural that small countries, that were obliged to join the EU when it was in its growth stage, would now shift allegiance. Bulgaria and the others owe no more loyalty to Brussels than the Gauls did to Rome.
:lol: Russia is a basket case that has an economy going down hill at a rate of knots. These guys will make some noise but they know which side there bread is buttered on and will soon realise relations with the 500 odd million wealthy liberal democracies with which they are aligned is the better bet..................by a long shot.
 

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:lol: Russia is a basket case that has an economy going down hill at a rate of knots. These guys will make some noise but they know which side there bread is buttered on and will soon realise relations with the 500 odd million wealthy liberal democracies with which they are aligned is the better bet..................by a long shot.
But the EU hasn't got tanks and those living around the borders of Russia are very well aware that Putin has.
 

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The EUs vision has seemingly become less appealing to some easterners. We would want to reform our vision quicksmart or we could end up being a glorious and rapid failure. How could we be appealing when we sign up to anti-democratic deals like TTIP and CETA?
Only speculation of course but it must seem very alienating to Eastern Europeans when they look at the EU commission and multiple presidents and the apparatchik signing up to deals no-one on the ground likes the look of at all.
A lot of the Eastern countries were after all the cash they could get. Many are not really motivated by the "core principles" of the EU. That's hardly surprising as Western Eu members have very little of a shared history with them.

Bulgaria has barely moved on from the good old days and the sympathy for the Big Bear is tied into their common languages anyway.
 

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Eastern Europeans have seen their resources grabbed by the Germans, and have seen their youth driven into exile in the West. Either they start to fight back against the EU scam - or they might as well just hang themselves now.
 

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:lol: Russia is a basket case that has an economy going down hill at a rate of knots.
The Ruble has been pushing the Euro down over the last couple of months. Mind you, everything has been pushing the Euro down, but the so has the Ruble.
 


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