Nazi Germany: The Drug-Fuelled Fascist State led by an addict Führer ....

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Far from being the wholesome paradise of Fascist legend (buxom & rosy-cheeked peasant maidens, manly Hitler Youth in lederhosen on mountain walks, the non-smoking, teetotal & vegetarian Führer taking the mountain air at Berchtesgaden), Nazi Germany was awash with drugs. Drugs were pushed on to Wehrmacht soldiers to enhance battlefield endurance, and two top Nazis (Hermann Goering and Hitler himself) were enslaved by drug addiction as the war progressed.

Hermann Goering's Drug Addiction

Goering was profoundly uneasy about the war, despite his high status as Hitler's right-hand man. As the war progressively worsened Goering took more and more refuge in morphine. Albert Speer in his memoirs describes a high level meeting chaired by Goering, when he appeared with the pupils of his eyes reduced to pin-points. For about an hour he treated the assembled senior Nazis to a long and eloquent (but irrelevant) discourse. Eventually his speech became slurred and his head collapsed on the table as he fell into a deep sleep. One of the his deputies took over the meeting, and the discussion progressed as the Reichsmarshall snored. Goering awoke as the meeting ended, and glared bleary eyed as the attendees left.

Capture by the Allies forced him to go cold turkey, and he recovered enough to turn in a good performance from the dock in Nuremberg. Little it availed him, as he committed suicide to avoid hanging.

The Wehrmacht on Amphetamines

In 1933 the Temmler-Werke company introduced Pervitin, a methamphetamine-based stimulant. The doctor who developed it, Fritz Hauschild, would go on to pioneer East Germany’s sports doping program.

The German Army that invaded France in 1940 advanced with terrific speed (literally!) moving and fighting through the night because each solider was given a tablet of Pervitin on the eve of the assault. It explains also Hitler's halt order when the Wehrmacht reached the coast. Not having slept for two or three nights, the soldiers were overcome with exhaustion. German soldiers called Pervitin "tank chocolate".

The Blitzkrieg tactics that were so successful for the Germans in France, and later early in the Russian campaign, may not have been totally due to superior tactics or good equipment alone, but to chemical stimulants also.

Hitler's Drug Addiction



Hitler was introduced to drugs by his personal physician, a quack names Dr Theo Morell. During the nine years the doctor treated Hitler, he is believed to have given the Führer between 28 and 90 different drugs, including Pervitin, laxatives, anti-gas pills with strychnine in them, morphine derivatives, seminal extract from bulls, body-building supplements, digestives, sedatives, hormones, and many vitamins of mysterious provenance, mostly administered via injection.

One dose of drugs by Morell is reckoned to have given Hitler the eloquence and confidence to persuade Mussolini not to pull Italy out of the war in 1943. It could also explain Hitler's morbid confidence at certain points of the war, such as after the failure to capture Moscow in 1941.

https://newrepublic.com/article/141125/third-reich-addicted-drugs

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=blitzed+norman+ohler&tag=googiehydra-21&index=aps&hvadid=91787598132&hvpos=1t2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17561925383457852783&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20487&hvtargid=kwd-259694211279&ref=pd_sl_28q54dyldy_e

Blitzed is a best seller in Germany. It was got at least one negative review in the UK, by the leading English historian of the Third Reich Richard J. Evans. Evans was the leading historian who gave evidence against Holocaust Denier David Irving. Who will stand up for Hitler's honour now?
 


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Drugs can be positive (in terms of their effect on cognition, temperament and functioning) as well as negative. The attempt to demonise by associating a person with drugs is a social construct. If Hitler was using drugs that makes him a more interesting person in my view. There is nothing 'weak' about it (that view also is a popular sociological construct).

We also have to look at the time (since this is a history forum) - the outright demonisation of using psychotropic substances really only came into it's own in the 1930s in America. A few decades before Hitler they were prescribing heroin to children.
 

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Drugs can be positive (in terms of their effect on cognition, temperament and functioning) as well as negative. The attempt to demonise by associating a person with drugs is a social construct. If Hitler was using drugs that makes him a more interesting person in my view. There is nothing 'weak' about it (that view also is a popular sociological construct).

We also have to look at the time (since this is a history forum) - the outright demonisation of using psychotropic substances really only came into it's own in the 1930s in America. A few decades before Hitler they were prescribing heroin to children.

He didn't exactly lack 'interest'.

I don't think that's at the root of many peoples reservations about the Fuhrer.
 

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Far from being the wholesome paradise of Fascist legend (buxom & rosy-cheeked peasant maidens, manly Hitler Youth in lederhosen on mountain walks, the non-smoking, teetotal & vegetarian Führer taking the mountain air at Berchtesgaden), Nazi Germany was awash with drugs...
You know this is going to upset the sites holocaust denying, anti Semitic, Hitler admiring neo Nazis no end, don't you - oh I see by your first reply it already has...
 

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Let's get this one out of the way before a neo Nazi uses it as some kind of 'trump card';

Yes John F Kennedy was under a very similar and equally dodgy regime from his own Doctor Feelgood, and yes this was why he lost personal (though closely monitored) debates with Kruschev during their summit.

He had a bad back.

Now back to Hitler...
 

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Drugs can be positive (in terms of their effect on cognition, temperament and functioning) as well as negative. The attempt to demonise by associating a person with drugs is a social construct. If Hitler was using drugs that makes him a more interesting person in my view. There is nothing 'weak' about it (that view also is a popular sociological construct).

We also have to look at the time (since this is a history forum) - the outright demonisation of using psychotropic substances really only came into it's own in the 1930s in America. A few decades before Hitler they were prescribing heroin to children.
I have a few bottles of extract of bull's testicles that I could sell you ....

It has long been know that Morell, Hitler's physician, was a total quack who experimented with various drugs on the hapless Fuehrer. Ohler, the author of Blitzed, says the levels of Morell's ministrations have been underestimated up until now.
 

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What is novel about Ohler's book is the use of Pervitin, the methamphetamine pill given to German soldiers. It does explain (at lest partially) the German's extraordinarily fast 1940 penetration into France, and the panic & demoralization of the French.

De Gaulle was amazed (and offended) at the way Germans virtually ignored surrendering French soldiers, telling them to throw away their weapons and march to the rear, as they continued to advance.

Pervitin is mentioned also in Tooze's Wages of Destruction, on the German war economy.
 

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I have a few bottles of extract of bull's testicles that I could sell you ....

It has long been know that Morell, Hitler's physician, was a total quack who experimented with various drugs on the hapless Fuehrer. Ohler, the author of Blitzed, says the levels of Morell's ministrations have been underestimated up until now.
We don't take our understanding of the Carthaginians from Roman historians do we? Why should we take our understanding of Hitler from his modern day enemies, the inheritors of his conquerors?

The cartoonisation of the Third Reich continues. Is it any wonder people have problems swallowing the holocaust story when the stuff that gets made up is so ridiculous?

You laymen of the Holocaust religion do the cause no favours. Next week Hitler will be an X-man.
 

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I have a few bottles of extract of bull's testicles that I could sell you ....

It has long been know that Morell, Hitler's physician, was a total quack who experimented with various drugs on the hapless Fuehrer. Ohler, the author of Blitzed, says the levels of Morell's ministrations have been underestimated up until now.
Thanks for the OP.

From what I've heard discussed, in somewhat prudish terms, I'd have to say, it appears that Herr Ohler isn't exactly a stranger to the delights of edgy pharmaceuticals himself.

I do like it when someone takes the trouble to do a little research.

Now the 'Hapless Fuerher'.

There's a song in that.
 

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In fairness their drug addiction wasn't the worst part of their depravity.
 

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Why do i get the feeling that this thread is going to turn into a discussion about the holocaust.
 

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Far from being the wholesome paradise of Fascist legend (buxom & rosy-cheeked peasant maidens, manly Hitler Youth in lederhosen on mountain walks, the non-smoking, teetotal & vegetarian Führer taking the mountain air at Berchtesgaden), Nazi Germany was awash with drugs. Drugs were pushed on to Wehrmacht soldiers to enhance battlefield endurance, and two top Nazis (Hermann Goering and Hitler himself) were enslaved by drug addiction as the war progressed.

Hermann Goering's Drug Addiction

Goering was profoundly uneasy about the war, despite his high status as Hitler's right-hand man. As the war progressively worsened Goering took more and more refuge in morphine. Albert Speer in his memoirs describes a high level meeting chaired by Goering, when he appeared with the pupils of his eyes reduced to pin-points. For about an hour he treated the assembled senior Nazis to a long and eloquent (but irrelevant) discourse. Eventually his speech became slurred and his head collapsed on the table as he fell into a deep sleep. One of the his deputies took over the meeting, and the discussion progressed as the Reichsmarshall snored. Goering awoke as the meeting ended, and glared bleary eyed as the attendees left.

Capture by the Allies forced him to go cold turkey, and he recovered enough to turn in a good performance from the dock in Nuremberg. Little it availed him, as he committed suicide to avoid hanging.

The Wehrmacht on Amphetamines

In 1933 the Temmler-Werke company introduced Pervitin, a methamphetamine-based stimulant. The doctor who developed it, Fritz Hauschild, would go on to pioneer East Germany’s sports doping program.

The German Army that invaded France in 1940 advanced with terrific speed (literally!) moving and fighting through the night because each solider was given a tablet of Pervitin on the eve of the assault. It explains also Hitler's halt order when the Wehrmacht reached the coast. Not having slept for two or three nights, the soldiers were overcome with exhaustion. German soldiers called Pervitin "tank chocolate".

The Blitzkrieg tactics that were so successful for the Germans in France, and later early in the Russian campaign, may not have been totally due to superior tactics or good equipment alone, but to chemical stimulants also.

Hitler's Drug Addiction



Hitler was introduced to drugs by his personal physician, a quack names Dr Theo Morell. During the nine years the doctor treated Hitler, he is believed to have given the Führer between 28 and 90 different drugs, including Pervitin, laxatives, anti-gas pills with strychnine in them, morphine derivatives, seminal extract from bulls, body-building supplements, digestives, sedatives, hormones, and many vitamins of mysterious provenance, mostly administered via injection.

One dose of drugs by Morell is reckoned to have given Hitler the eloquence and confidence to persuade Mussolini not to pull Italy out of the war in 1943. It could also explain Hitler's morbid confidence at certain points of the war, such as after the failure to capture Moscow in 1941.

https://newrepublic.com/article/141125/third-reich-addicted-drugs

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=blitzed+norman+ohler&tag=googiehydra-21&index=aps&hvadid=91787598132&hvpos=1t2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17561925383457852783&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20487&hvtargid=kwd-259694211279&ref=pd_sl_28q54dyldy_e

Blitzed is a best seller in Germany. It was got at least one negative review in the UK, by the leading English historian of the Third Reich Richard J. Evans. Evans was the leading historian who gave evidence against Holocaust Denier David Irving. Who will stand up for Hitler's honour now?
Its basic common knowledge that some of the Nazis had substance addictions, there's no secret about that.
 
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Yeah guy who wrote the book re-discovered something that was known in the 50s and went all "OMG" the Nazis were drug fiends.

Jesus, in WW1, they were dishing out cocaine to the troops to get them over the top. Anyway who knows anything at all about active service in a real army is well aware that meth gets the shock troops in so they can stay awake for 48 hours etc.

Yawn.
 

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ISIS stormtroopers are known to use drugs too.


Apparently the Saudis supply materiel for making the amphetamines for them.

There was a Saudi prince captured in Lebanon with tons of the stuff
 


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