Nazi Germany: The Drug-Fuelled Fascist State led by an addict Führer ....



dalyp

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Wow, somebody read a history book today.

Next: shocking revelations that Winston Churchill liked a few scoops.
But I wonder how many know that Churchill wanted to gas the Kurds long before Saddam



'When the Kurds rebelled against British rule in Iraq in the1920s – under the leadership of Sheikh Mahmud Barzanji -- Chruchill was quoted as saying: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against the uncivilized tribes… it would spread a lively terror.”
 

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All of these points have been more than refuted in different threads on the site, and in the literature. let anyone who wants to bother look them up.
Take the first point...


It's worth noting that the claims regarding gas chambers appear to have been War Propaganda - on a par with gassing claims made in WWI. Both by forensic evidence following the war & that from British Intelligence at the time suggest this.
During ww1 British propaganda claimed that the Austrian's were gassing Serb civilians in gas chambers and that they had mass murdered 700,000 in this way.

After the war this and other holocaust type propaganda was dropped like a stone, only for similar nonsense to be resurrected in ww2.

Can you explain why the ww1 propaganda was dropped but the ww2 version is still promoted?
 

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Explains why liberals are so big fans of drugs legalization
[video=youtube;fgZ_5LoPo3A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZ_5LoPo3A[/video]
I think it's mainly drug decriminalisation that some liberals support. America has thrown away the lives of millions for the 'crime' of ingesting a substance and Reagan was at the heart of it.

It's a colossal crime against people - and that to me is true fascism.
 

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This is just a quick gallop through the latest Holocaust-denying talking points from Stormfront. The usual execrable, genocide-excusing shyte, redolent of anti-intellectual smelly anti-Semitism.

All of these points have been more than refuted in different threads on the site, and in the literature. let anyone who wants to bother look them up.

e.g. The "chemical tests" referred to in 12 were not done by a qualified chemist, but by a self-styled American "execution expert", who was later shown to be an ignoramus when it came testing the chemical residues of cyanide.

The Leuchter Report, which claims to prove that lethal gas chambers did not exist, is pseudo-scientific rubbish

Much the same goes for all the other points. There are good rebuttals of Holocaust denying propaganda here:

Rebutting anti-Semitic propaganda about the Holocaust

Holocaust deniers love expiating about the 1940-45 genocide, because of their nostalgia for the days when Jews could be abused and killed indiscriminately.
They are only the 'latest' points if you still live in the 1990's, I know Ireland is probably a bit behind us in the UK but things have moved on a lot since then. It does explain your obsession with the hockeystick graph though.
 

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They are only the 'latest' points if you still live in the 1990's, I know Ireland is probably a bit behind us in the UK but things have moved on a lot since then. It does explain your obsession with the hockeystick graph though.
He's keeping well away from the fact that in ww1 British propaganda claimed that the Austrian's were gassing Serb civilians in gas chambers and that they had mass murdered 700,000 in this way.

Why did they drop the ww1 propaganda like a stone but still to this day find the ww2 gas chamber myth useful?
 

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In a speech in a beer hall in Dresden, Björn Höcke, who leads the AfD party in the eastern state of Thuringia, railed against Germany’s decade-long tradition of acknowledging the crimes of the National Socialist era, describing the Holocaust memorial in Berlin as a “monument of shame”.

“They wanted to cut off our roots and with the re-education that began in 1945, they nearly managed,” Höcke said. “Until now, our mental state continues to be that of a totally defeated people. We Germans are the only people in the world that have planted a monument of shame in the heart of their capital.”


Höcke, a former history teacher, also complained that German schoolchildren were supposedly not taught about the country’s scientific and artistic achievements, and that German history was made to look “mean and ridiculous”. “That cannot and must not continue,” he added, which was greeted with a standing ovation and chants of “Germany, Germany” from his audience.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-germany-should-stop-atoning-for-nazi-crimes
 

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In a speech in a beer hall in Dresden, Björn Höcke, who leads the AfD party in the eastern state of Thuringia, railed against Germany’s decade-long tradition of acknowledging the crimes of the National Socialist era, describing the Holocaust memorial in Berlin as a “monument of shame”.

“They wanted to cut off our roots and with the re-education that began in 1945, they nearly managed,” Höcke said. “Until now, our mental state continues to be that of a totally defeated people. We Germans are the only people in the world that have planted a monument of shame in the heart of their capital.”


Höcke, a former history teacher, also complained that German schoolchildren were supposedly not taught about the country’s scientific and artistic achievements, and that German history was made to look “mean and ridiculous”. “That cannot and must not continue,” he added, which was greeted with a standing ovation and chants of “Germany, Germany” from his audience.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-germany-should-stop-atoning-for-nazi-crimes
The similarities are endless.
 

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Lol, clown.

White power and the American Nazi party are figments of someones imagination.

I think the "liberals" and zionist gangs have the most to gain from the existence of such phantom organisations than anyone else :)

Facts don't really suit you, do they??
 

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Tooze's book is the first I read that makes the different facets of the Nazi's strategy (pre-1939 re-armament, the 1939 attack on Poland, Operation Barbarossa, the subjection and exploitation of slave labour, the integration of the European economy to benefit Nazi Germany, and the genocide of Jews and Slavs) into a coherent whole.

A great book, highly recommended.
Agree with everything you say, Wages of Destruction made me also see Hitler's War in a new light.

The unity of the Generalplan Ost, the Hunger Plan and the Holocaust to murder Jews and starve Slavs is starkly presented in Tooze's book.

Here it is on Amazon for anyone interested.
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Also available in your local library. If it's not there on the shelf, a copy can be acquired thru the inter-library service. Your tax funds this municipal service.

Tooze's book is intimidatingly large for some readers but the text is accessible to all but readers of the Red Tops.
 

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Also available in your local library. If it's not there on the shelf, a copy can be acquired thru the inter-library service. Your tax funds this municipal service.

Tooze's book is intimidatingly large for some readers but the text is accessible to all but readers of the Red Tops.
Sounds interesting, with the usual reservations...

Tooze conforms very particularly with the regnant diktat bearing on historians to support the notion that the German state enacted a policy to exterminate the Jews of Europe. Such recitation, which the author undertakes largely without benefit of citation, may be a sine qua non of eminence in his chosen field. Regardless, he neither unduly belabors his occasional explicit references to gas-chamber-extermination programs, nor does he waste words or readers’ attentions upon the enormity of such allegations. He recites them, at a number of points quite sufficient to support the notion that he believes them sincerely, and otherwise seems to consign them to the irrelevance that they deserve with reference to his declared subject—the efforts the Third Reich undertook, first to launch, then to defend against defeat in, what may be viewed in retrospect as its war of survival...On the strength of this work, Tooze faces no danger whatsoever of its publication in Germany falling foul of the Holocaust-denial laws that ultimately landed Irving in an Austrian jail—his affirmation of the horror, if not the crime, of the Holocaust is fulsome.

Beyond that Tooze seems to have been quite balanced...

In all the fighting, slaving, and starving, inexorably the finger of fate came around to point squarely at the Germans. The SS, increasingly deployed to recruit, deliver, and then coerce foreign workers of all kinds—prisoners of war, concentration-camp inmates, and simple conscripts—began in the war’s last wracking year to be directed against the population of Germany itself. By the end, Germany had long since become one huge labor camp, but one blockaded from receiving adequate foodstuffs and suffering a deluge of bombs from ever-growing fleets of heavy bombers opposed by ever fewer obsolete fighters flying on their last precious drops of fuel. Tooze maintains the courage to detail fully the ultimate miseries endured by the German people themselves, refraining from the stylish indulgence of assigning blame to them for the war and its ineluctably mounting ferocity.

https://codoh.com/library/document/3156/?lang=en
 

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Yeah guy who wrote the book re-discovered something that was known in the 50s and went all "OMG" the Nazis were drug fiends.

Jesus, in WW1, they were dishing out cocaine to the troops to get them over the top. Anyway who knows anything at all about active service in a real army is well aware that meth gets the shock troops in so they can stay awake for 48 hours etc.

Yawn.
Do you have a source from the 1950s discussing this drug use ?
 

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All of these points have been more than refuted in different threads on the site, and in the literature. let anyone who wants to bother look them up.
Take the first point...


It's worth noting that the claims regarding gas chambers appear to have been War Propaganda - on a par with gassing claims made in WWI. Both by forensic evidence following the war & that from British Intelligence at the time suggest this.
During ww1 British propaganda claimed that the Austrian's were gassing Serb civilians in gas chambers and that they had mass murdered 700,000 in this way.

After the war this and other holocaust type propaganda was dropped like a stone, only for similar nonsense to be resurrected in ww2.

Can you explain why the ww1 propaganda was dropped but the ww2 version is still promoted?
 


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