Negotiating the 26 Counties return to the UK

Hans Von Horn

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.

If the new arrangement were to pay all the Irish Politicians 50% more generously as the EU they would convert to support it en masse.

The EU's single market was not about free trade or free access, but about piling more and more laws and rules onto business and citizens in the name of the single market. It favours large companies already dominant in a market, and the status quo. The definition of a single market measure could range from employment and welfare policy through environmental policy to transport and taxation. The Single Market was used as a Vehicle to expand EU power over member Countries.
 
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Congalltee

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Is this the same plonker with the thread about rerunning the 34th amendment?

DONT FEED THIS NONSENSE.
 

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
We could sub in for Scotland ;)
 

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
Grand so. Now that you have explained it so clearly..

Tango Romeo Oscar Lima Lima.
 

midlander12

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
Not a chance. I actually think we may be on the way out of the EU, but rejoining the UK is not an option. Certainly we must retain our free trade and free travel area with them, and possibly acquire joint authority over NI if the political class there do not grow up.
 

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
OK- fxck off and join the Queen and her fascist regime, Herr Von Horn !
 

The Field Marshal

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
Provided Ireland retains its sovereignty and indepenedence there is no reason now at all why a serious political/economic alliance could not exist with the UK.

Brussels and the EU must learn to know their place in the scheme of things.
 

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OK- fxck off and join the Queen and her fascist regime, Herr Von Horn !
Not sure that van horn means rejoining the uk.

His points have validity provided Irelands retains sovereignty.

Brussels and the EU need a very serious castration and Ireland is in position to deliver it.
 

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
Only a dunderhead blueshirt could come up with this nonsense.
 

truthandjustice

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
Completely agree, Ireland need to depart the EU. Trump has the UK at the front of the line for trade deals and Germany has Ireland at back of the EU line for consideration when negotiating Brexit. Ireland needs to take control back from our EU slave TDs who do not have our best interests at heart.
 

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Only a dunderhead blueshirt could come up with this nonsense.

We never were Independent. We were always dependent on the UK or the EU.
 

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Just as Ireland joining the Common Market was unthinkable without the United Kingdom, so too is the reality that Ireland cannot remain in the European Union without the United Kingdom also doing do.

The Economy of the 26 is simply too dependent on that of the UK to participate in full EU Political Union in a United States of Europe arrangement while the EU conducts an Economic War with the United Kingdom.

The German Jackboot demands surrender and compliance to it's will and the 26 would have much more influence in the UK than it would have in the European Union.

If we remain in the EU we will have to accept hordes of poor immigrants seeking a better life, in Ireland which will be funded from our taxation and social funds. The Generous Irish Benefits will draw immigration in the context of a closed UK like flies to bovine excrement.

Without the Euro we would have little option than to sue to adopt the Pound Sterling. The Northern Six Counties should continue to conduct their own experiment with Nationalism and Independence, and learn the harsh and painful lessons taught by DeValera or a modern day reincarnation. This will mean even more suffering for Northern Ireland and it's people.

A UK model based on Regional Devolvement is emerging. The Dail might become an Assembly and return members to sit in the Commons. Bertie might become Lord Digout the Peace Maker. Lord Biffo might sit beside him. Lord Cornelstown of Dunboyne (John Bruton the first Premier to turn in a Budgetary Surplus) would probably settle in very easily to the House of Lords

A soft border might be then enabled between the 26 and the 6.

The Independence experiment has come very close to being concluded on a number of times since Independence. There has been a crisis in every decade.

The Country was wrecked after the War of Independence.
We fought and lost an Economic War with the UK.
The Second World War was a near Run thing, the Germans could have invaded and secured the Atlantic.
Ireland almost collapsed in the 50's with record Emigration.
A Civil War almost broke out in the 1970's engulfing the whole Island.
The Noughties saw our Banking Collapse and a loan being begged form the Queen's Government.
The ordinary people enjoy no great advantage from Independence.

If we remain in the EU and the EU fight an economic War with the UK we will lose it in Ireland.
Ireland leaving the EC would be Economically suicide, we depend on the EC not the UK, it would put the thousands of jobs in jeoparady
 

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The emerging block of opportunity is the Anglosphere. It contains half a billion English Speakers.
 

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Ireland leaving the EC would be Economically suicide, we depend on the EC not the UK, it would put the thousands of jobs in jeoparady
You simply do not understand.
 

The Field Marshal

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Completely agree, Ireland need to depart the EU. Trump has the UK at the front of the line for trade deals and Germany has Ireland at back of the EU line for consideration when negotiating Brexit. Ireland needs to take control back from our EU slave TDs who do not have our best interests at heart.
Ireland can never ever subordinate itself to the UK.
That is simply never possible.

Ireland can exercise joint sovereignty or some such other arrangement provided the independence of ireland as a sovereign state is maintained.

I am personally in favour of a a very heavy mauling of the Brussels and EU scum who have worked for years to destroy the sovereignty of nation states
 

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Jesus I actually lived there and was in their military and I don't like the place as much as some people round here....:|
 

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The EU doctrine of the single market was nothing more than a device to make laws on how we lived every aspect of our lives. The web of EU law is all encompassing which reduced the Taoiseach's role to that of Provincial Gauleitir.
 


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