Netanyahu "Ethnic cleansing for peace is absurd."

L'Chaim

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"I'm sure many of you have heard the claim that Jewish communities in Judea Samaria, the West Bank, are an obstacle to peace.

I've always been perplexed by this notion.

Because no one would seriously claim that the nearly two million Arabs living inside Israel – that they're an obstacle to peace. That's because they aren't. On the contrary.

Israel's diversity shows its openness and readiness for peace.
Yet the Palestinian leadership actually demands a Palestinian state with one pre-condition: No Jews.

There's a phrase for that: It's called ethnic cleansing.

And this demand is outrageous. It's even more outrageous that the world doesn't find this outrageous.

Some otherwise enlightened countries even promote this outrage.

Ask yourself this: Would you accept ethnic cleansing in your state? A territory without Jews, without Hispanics, without blacks?
Since when is bigotry a foundation for peace?

At this moment, Jewish schoolchildren in Judea Samaria are playing in sandboxes with their friends.
Does their presence make peace impossible?

I don’t think so.

I think what makes peace impossible is intolerance of others.
Societies that respect all people are the ones that pursue peace.
Societies that demand ethnic cleansing don't pursue peace.

I envision a Middle East where young Arabs and young Jews learn together, work together, live together side by side in peace.

Our region needs more tolerance, not less.

So the next time you hear someone say Jews can't live somewhere, let alone in their ancestral homeland, take a moment to think of the implications.

Ethnic cleansing for peace is absurd.

It's about time somebody said it.

I just did. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRe9BbEqiI

What Netanyahu said is 100% correct and it makes sense
 


Destiny's Soldier

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Netanyahu is the man who said that the future of Israeli Arabs belong outside of Israel.
 

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Past negotiations on a settlement would suggest that this really isn't the issue. Retaining settlements and land swaps in formation of a Palestinian state pales into insignificance compared to who controls and has sovereignty over Jerusalem. And that's a centuries old question which is unlikely to be resolved anytime soon.
 

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The settlements are based on ethnic cleansing of the previous Arab population. The fact that non Jewish Arabs are not allowed to live in the settlements is a form of ethnic cleansing. Very similar to the Jim Crow laws in the American South.
 

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So the next time you hear someone say Jews can't live somewhere, let alone in their ancestral homeland, take a moment to think of the implications.

Ethnic cleansing for peace is absurd.
The state of Israel exists precisely because it took a view that ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Arab population was a necessity.

And there is no archaeological dig anywhere that shows there was ever a Jewish civilisation in the Israel of today. It is all pure mythology and legend.

Although when people mention a state of Israel -does anyone know the borders of Israel? What exactly is the state of Israel?
 

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The settlements are based on ethnic cleansing of the previous Arab population. The fact that non Jewish Arabs are not allowed to live in the settlements is a form of ethnic cleansing. Very similar to the Jim Crow laws in the American South.
Where did you get the idea that "non Jewish arabs" are not allowed live in settlements?
 

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And today people black is white.
 

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it seems to be a dumb condition, as it is Jews are fleeing France to Israel , imagine living under Arab rule as a Jew?, it sounds like they would just drift back to Israel overtime or head to the US if they can.
 

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The illegal settlements, land theft and displacement of Palestinians is ethnic cleansing. Netanyahu is a hypocrite.
 

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The illegal settlements, land theft and displacement of Palestinians is ethnic cleansing. Netanyahu is a hypocrite.
No, the illegal settlements, land and property theft and displacement of Jews (in the West Bank) by Jordan was ethnic cleansing. Jews being able to go back there to settle is not ethnic cleansing. It's actually reversing ethnic cleansing and righting a wrong
 

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No, the illegal settlements, land and property theft and displacement of Jews (in the West Bank) by Jordan was ethnic cleansing. Jews being able to go back there to settle is not ethnic cleansing. It's actually reversing ethnic cleansing and righting a wrong
Only a tiny percentage of the WB settlers are descended from those Jews you are talking about. Your analysis ignores individual rights in favour of a racist hierarchy of ethnic rights. We could talk about the Philistines etc who were ethnically cleansed by the Jews. Where do you start he clock.
 

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Only a tiny percentage of the WB settlers are descended from those Jews you are talking about. Your analysis ignores individual rughts in favour of a racist a hierarchy of ethnic rights
How do you know that? You really think that only descendants of WB settlers should be allowed live on the West Bank? Should only descendants of Dubliners be allowed live in Dublin? Should those descendant of people from Belfast not be allowed live in the South? Apart from Jews, is there anybody else you would claim could only live in a place their ancestors came from and couldn't move to somewhere else even 20 miles away?

At least you recognise that Jews have a history of living on the West Bank (until Jordan expelled them) I suppose

I think you might be the type of person Netanyahu is talking about in his video
 

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This threat is literally Orwellian
This. Even Orwell couldn't have imagined the depravity of L'Charm's propaganda.
 

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How do you know that? You really think that only descendants of WB settlers should be allowed live on the West Bank? Should only descendants of Dubliners be allowed live in Dublin? Should those descendant of people from Belfast not be allowed live in the South? Apart from Jews, is there anybody else you would claim could only live in a place their ancestors came from and couldn't move to somewhere else even 20 miles away?

At least you recognise that Jews have a history of living on the West Bank (until Jordan expelled them) I suppose

I think you might be the type of person Netanyahu is talking about in his video
The majority of the WB population was never Jewish since the Islamic conquest. The Netanyahu govt has an official policy of retroactively legalising settlements declared illegal by Israeli courts. What is supposed to happen to the former Arab inhabitants who have human rights, which under the Balfour Declaration were supposed to be protected also?
 

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This. Even Orwell couldn't have imagined the depravity of L'Charm's propaganda.
What propaganda? The claim that is made, in all seriousness, that Jewish communities in Judea Samaria, the West Bank, are an obstacle to peace? It's been made many times on here. there's even a very long thread on here arguing that very point "settlements are an obstacle to peace". What people who argue this are doing is arguing for ethnic cleansing. They want a west bank palestinian state to be Jew free and demand Israel should allow in millions of palestinians. It's what you people want and it's what you try to seriously argue for. You think that it's reasonable to argue that Jews should not be allowed live somewhere as being a logical belief
 

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The majority of the WB population was never Jewish since the Islamic conquest. The Netanyahu govt has an official policy of retroactively legalising settlements declared illegal by Israeli courts. What is supposed to happen to the former Arab inhabitants who have human rights, which under the Balfour Declaration were supposed to be protected also?
So what? Time shifts and majorities shift. Just look at our elections. One election FF is the majority, another election and FG is, or SF is. But trying to argue that only descendants of those Jews who lived on the West Bank years ago should be allowed to live thee now is flawed argument. Follow your logic then only descendants of American indians should only be allowed live in America and descendants of Vikings should not be allowed live in Ireland. Do what Netanyahu says and think of the implications of what you say
 

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Presumably if you're a Catholic, Hindu or Buddhist you're welcome to move to Israel and live amongst its Jews?
Christians were totally screwed over by israel.
After the war of 1948, the Christian population in the West Bank, under Jordanian control, dropped slightly, largely due to economic problems. This contrasts with the process occurring in Israel where Christians left en masse after 1948. Constituting 21% of Israel's Arab population in 1950, they now make up just 9% of that group. These trends accelerated after the 1967 war in the aftermath of Israel's takeover of the West Bank and Gaza.[29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians#Modern_history
 


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