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New Egypt Constitution


seabhcan

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Someone has translated it to English.

Egypt's draft constitution translated | Egypt Independent

Some interesting bits:

Article 2
Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic its official language. Principles of Islamic Sharia are the principal source of legislation.



Article 4

Al-Azhar is an encompassing independent Islamic institution, with exclusive autonomy over its own affairs, responsible for preaching Islam, theology and the Arabic language in Egypt and the world. Al-Azhar Senior Scholars are to be consulted in matters pertaining to Islamic law.


The post of Al-Azhar Grand Sheikh is independent and cannot be dismissed. The method of appointing the Grand Sheikh from among members of the Senior Scholars is to be determined by law.

The State shall ensure sufficient funds for Al-Azhar to achieve its objectives.


All of the above is subject to law regulations.



Article 7

Defense of the motherland and its soil is a sacred duty, and conscription is obligatory in accordance with the law.



Article 10
The family is the basis of the society and is founded on religion, morality and patriotism.


The State is keen to preserve the genuine character of the Egyptian family, its cohesion and stability, and to protect its moral values, all as regulated by law.

The State shall ensure maternal and child health services free of charge, and enable the reconciliation between the duties of a woman toward her family and her work.


The State shall provide special care and protection to female breadwinners, divorced women and widows.



Article 27

Workers shall have a share of the management and profits of enterprises...

Article 44
Insult or abuse of all religious messengers and prophets shall be prohibited.

Article 63
Work is a right, duty and honor for every citizen, guaranteed by the State on the basis of the principles of equality, justice and equal opportunities. There shall be no forced labor except in accordance with law.

It reminds me of Dev's 1937 constitution.
 


Niall996

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Someone has translated it to English.

Egypt's draft constitution translated | Egypt Independent

Some interesting bits:

Article 2
Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic its official language. Principles of Islamic Sharia are the principal source of legislation.



Article 4

Al-Azhar is an encompassing independent Islamic institution, with exclusive autonomy over its own affairs, responsible for preaching Islam, theology and the Arabic language in Egypt and the world. Al-Azhar Senior Scholars are to be consulted in matters pertaining to Islamic law.


The post of Al-Azhar Grand Sheikh is independent and cannot be dismissed. The method of appointing the Grand Sheikh from among members of the Senior Scholars is to be determined by law.

The State shall ensure sufficient funds for Al-Azhar to achieve its objectives.


All of the above is subject to law regulations.



Article 7

Defense of the motherland and its soil is a sacred duty, and conscription is obligatory in accordance with the law.



Article 10
The family is the basis of the society and is founded on religion, morality and patriotism.


The State is keen to preserve the genuine character of the Egyptian family, its cohesion and stability, and to protect its moral values, all as regulated by law.

The State shall ensure maternal and child health services free of charge, and enable the reconciliation between the duties of a woman toward her family and her work.


The State shall provide special care and protection to female breadwinners, divorced women and widows.



Article 27

Workers shall have a share of the management and profits of enterprises...

Article 44
Insult or abuse of all religious messengers and prophets shall be prohibited.

Article 63
Work is a right, duty and honor for every citizen, guaranteed by the State on the basis of the principles of equality, justice and equal opportunities. There shall be no forced labor except in accordance with law.

It reminds me of Dev's 1937 constitution.
Dev's constitution of 1937 is old in terms iof actual years, but virtually an ancient document in terms of how far the world has changed since. To see this stuff in a 2013 constitution is deeply depressing.
 

neiphin

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Dev's constitution of 1937 is old in terms iof actual years, but virtually an ancient document in terms of how far the world has changed since. To see this stuff in a 2013 constitution is deeply depressing.
such feigned horror
 
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"and a maximum wage in civil service positions with exemptions regulated by law."
 :)
 

Druidess

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The wording of the constitution doesn't worry me so much as the new dictatorial powers Morsi has bestowed upon himself.

One man, one vote, one time only.
 

darkhorse

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Looney constitution
Wait till the legal profession get their hands on it
It will be ripped to pieces in the courts - if they allow a free judiciary
 

Trampas

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Looney constitution
Wait till the legal profession get their hands on it
It will be ripped to pieces in the courts - if they allow a free judiciary

Indeed. Meanwhile Jordan has just kicked off. Now there's a "surprise".
 
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Overall it's a strange mix. Can't help but feel that some of the articles will undermine in practice a lot of the principles that they list in advance as guiding it. A lot will depend on the judiciary and, I suspect, the military.
 

Niall996

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Someone has translated it to English.

Egypt's draft constitution translated | Egypt Independent

Some interesting bits:

Article 2
Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic its official language. Principles of Islamic Sharia are the principal source of legislation.



Article 4

Al-Azhar is an encompassing independent Islamic institution, with exclusive autonomy over its own affairs, responsible for preaching Islam, theology and the Arabic language in Egypt and the world. Al-Azhar Senior Scholars are to be consulted in matters pertaining to Islamic law.

The post of Al-Azhar Grand Sheikh is independent and cannot be dismissed. The method of appointing the Grand Sheikh from among members of the Senior Scholars is to be determined by law.

The State shall ensure sufficient funds for Al-Azhar to achieve its objectives.


All of the above is subject to law regulations.



Article 7

Defense of the motherland and its soil is a sacred duty, and conscription is obligatory in accordance with the law.



Article 10
The family is the basis of the society and is founded on religion, morality and patriotism.


The State is keen to preserve the genuine character of the Egyptian family, its cohesion and stability, and to protect its moral values, all as regulated by law.

The State shall ensure maternal and child health services free of charge, and enable the reconciliation between the duties of a woman toward her family and her work.


The State shall provide special care and protection to female breadwinners, divorced women and widows.



Article 27

Workers shall have a share of the management and profits of enterprises...

Article 44
Insult or abuse of all religious messengers and prophets shall be prohibited.

Article 63
Work is a right, duty and honor for every citizen, guaranteed by the State on the basis of the principles of equality, justice and equal opportunities. There shall be no forced labor except in accordance with law.


The wording of the constitution doesn't worry me so much as the new dictatorial powers Morsi has bestowed upon himself.

One man, one vote, one time only.
None of this stuff worries you?
 

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Article 63
Work is a right, duty and honor for every citizen, guaranteed by the State on the basis of the principles of equality, justice and equal opportunities. There shall be no forced labor except in accordance with law.

It reminds me of Dev's 1937 constitution.
Very similar to Devs except under Devs we had a right to emigrate , not a right to work. How will they enforce a right to work ? Communism ? :D
 

seabhcan

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Our constitution starts with:

In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom
is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all
actions both of men and States must be referred,

We, the people of Éire,
Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our
Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our
fathers through centuries of trial,


It mentions god 9 times, religion 15 times.

I'm not sure we are qualified to criticize the Egyptians.
 

Niall996

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Our constitution starts with:

In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom
is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all
actions both of men and States must be referred,

We, the people of Éire,
Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our
Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our
fathers through centuries of trial,


It mentions god 9 times, religion 15 times.

I'm not sure we are qualified to criticize the Egyptians.
I wasn't around when that stuff was written. Would love to see it ditched.
 

Trampas

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Our constitution starts with:

In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom
is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all
actions both of men and States must be referred,

We, the people of Éire,
Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our
Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our
fathers through centuries of trial,


It mentions god 9 times, religion 15 times.

I'm not sure we are qualified to criticize the Egyptians.

It is a preamble.....that should be removed before it causes any further embarrassment. It was hardly a priority for a FF regime intent on introducing a "blasphemy" law. Now is FGs chance to shine.
 

Niall996

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It is a preamble.....that should be removed before it causes any further embarrassment. It was hardly a priority for a FF regime intent on introducing a "blasphemy" law. Now is FGs chance to shine.

I'm surprised Mary was left out.
 

Trampas

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I'm surprised Mary was left out.

THey probably reckoned there was enough stuff named for her already. Now here we are in the 21st century with a third level institution called "Mary Immaculate". Sweet Jesus ....as it were.
 

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