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"New" IRA admits that it killed journalist in Londonderry


Hillmanhunter1

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Shoooo, go troll elsewhere, you are pathetic trying to emulate a SB interrogator in Long Kesh Concentration Camp......😂 please continue to amuse the contributors to this site😂
Thought so. All hat and no cattle.
 


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This is Ger Devereux:


Mr Devereux seems to be the General Secretary of Saoradh.

When Saoradh's website said a "republican volunteer attempted to defend people" from the PSNI and the RUC and that "tragically a young journalist, Lyra McKee, was killed accidentally", Mr Devereux said that he did not see the statement before it went out. "I don't necessarily agree with it".
 

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This is Ger Devereux:


Mr Devereux seems to be the General Secretary of Saoradh.

When Saoradh's website said a "republican volunteer attempted to defend people" from the PSNI and the RUC and that "tragically a young journalist, Lyra McKee, was killed accidentally", Mr Devereux said that he did not see the statement before it went out. "I don't necessarily agree with it".
i wonder what happened to that poor man to make him support IRA after they've been exposed 100% as murderers, pedos, pedo enablers and cowards
 

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Ireland will ever be at rest as long as we can big ourselves up on MTV.

Armed republicanism has always been Guinness soaked madness they never had remotely the numbers to achieve their aims by force and in renacting the same "plan" the sealed balaclava are even less effective.
 

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Hopefully the police are making progress. First the Guardian reported "Police investigating the death of the journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot during disturbances in Northern Ireland last month, have arrested two teenagers and two men."

Lyra McKee death: four males arrested

Then shortly afterwards "Two men have been charged with rioting and petrol bomb offences as part of the investigation into the murder of journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot during disturbances in Northern Ireland last month."

Two men charged with rioting in Lyra McKee murder investigation

I look forward to the murdered being brought before justice.
 

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Hopefully the police are making progress. First the Guardian reported "Police investigating the death of the journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot during disturbances in Northern Ireland last month, have arrested two teenagers and two men."

Lyra McKee death: four males arrested

Then shortly afterwards "Two men have been charged with rioting and petrol bomb offences as part of the investigation into the murder of journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot during disturbances in Northern Ireland last month."

Two men charged with rioting in Lyra McKee murder investigation

I look forward to the murdered being brought before justice.

Time is too short now to bring the British State murderers to justice as many have already passed on and the thousands who have been victims of this scum in many other ways besides murder may have to accept justice might come from their religious beliefs and doctrines which preach the "final judgement day" Is something that will come eventually.
 

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Time is too short now to bring the British State murderers to justice as many have already passed on and the thousands who have been victims of this scum in many other ways besides murder may have to accept justice might come from their religious beliefs and doctrines which preach the "final judgement day" Is something that will come eventually.
I think you're on the wrong thread buddy.

This one is about the murder of Lyra McKee.
 

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This is Brian Kenna:

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Brian is Chairman of Saoradh - Capo di tutti Capi.

Brian likes to rob banks.

Brian is an old man.
 
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Hopefully the police are making progress. First the Guardian reported "Police investigating the death of the journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot during disturbances in Northern Ireland last month, have arrested two teenagers and two men."

Lyra McKee death: four males arrested

Then shortly afterwards "Two men have been charged with rioting and petrol bomb offences as part of the investigation into the murder of journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot during disturbances in Northern Ireland last month."

Two men charged with rioting in Lyra McKee murder investigation

I look forward to the murdered being brought before justice.
Just waiting till they start harping on that they should get early release under the GFA. .
 

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I think you're on the wrong thread buddy.

This one is about the murder of Lyra McKee.

What's the matter with you? You request murderers being brought to justice.......I agreed and replied in kind, surely you are not suggesting only certain groups of killers should be brought to justice? 😂
 

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What's the matter with you? You request murderers being brought to justice.......I agreed and replied in kind, surely you are not suggesting only certain groups of killers should be brought to justice? 😂
I am only interested in criminal killers who, post GFA, pretend to have a reason for violence.
 

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Fintan O'Toole's article is behind a paywall, but the opening paragraph is visible and is of his usual superb standard:

Subscriber Only: Fintan O’Toole: Gangsters who call themselves the New IRA are calcified cliché

Dissident republicans are neither. The idea of dissidence is to oppose and contest received ideas, to challenge calcified cliches. The gangsters who call themselves the New IRA and their groupies in Saoradh are nothing but calcified cliché. They endlessly recycle dead platitudes and poses. They are military re-enactors with real bullets, museum dummies with live bombs. And republicanism is a philosophical tradition about which they have no clue, a way of thinking about a democracy in which, as Philip Pettit has put it, we can look one another in the eye without reason for fear or deference. Fear and deference are what these bullies seek to create, first in their own enclaves and then for the rest of us.
Tintin o'foole is an idiot who never supported the IRA in any guise, and is beloved of the Brit and Irish establishment.
 

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Tintin o'foole is an idiot who never supported the IRA in any guise, and is beloved of the Brit and Irish establishment.
Well, he won't make much of an impression with intellectual leviathans like you entering the fray:ROFLMAO:
 

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This is Patrick Gallagher:
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Patrick Gallagher seems to be a member of the National Executive of Saoradh. He also seems to be a spokesman for Saoradh.

He said "Saoradh "understood" the violence.", which is great, because nobody else does.

Perhaps, as a spokesman, he could come here and explain.
He looks like a spokesman for LGBT, how very modern.
 

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Indeed, as many have said in the past, unionism seem to have a hierarchy of victims when it comes to the past conflict.
Aye, but this bites the biscuit altogether..

...We know and acknowledge that those who died on Bloody Sunday were unlawfully killed, as were so many others on both sides. We now wish, with dignity and pride (but no shame), to lay down the weight of those times, without forgetting them, but also without lionizing or demonizing anyone. Nothing new or good will come from picking at these old scabs..
And you were saying, on behalf of 'we', whoever 'we' are, apart from maybe yourself, the DOG, and one or two others on pie, an obscure political discussion site on the outer layers of the inter-woogie, 'we' shouldn't be 'lionizing or demonizing anyone', and yet here 'we' are, lionizing' and 'demonizing' all and sundry, and 'picking at new scabs', for 'different political reasons'..

Basic Irish History Lesson:

- The Civil Rights Movement, Sinn Féin and the IRA were distinct entities.

- The Provisional IRA informally dissolved in 1998; and formally dissolved in 2005. In other words, they have been inactive for 22 years.

- Saoradh were established in 2016, and as with the aforementioned, is one of a number of literally dozens of distinct Republican organizations. The 'New' IRA are a distinct entity and were established at a completely different period of time.

- Ireland was a unified political entity before the 1916 Easter Rising, and by extension, the rebellion wasn't fought for Irish Unity.

- Members of the political establishment in the south, 'lionizing' McKee, didn't support the political process which led to the GFA, and were ideologically opposed to formal and informal alliances featuring Republican organizations, as far back as 1971.

I am only interested in criminal killers who, post GFA, pretend to have a reason for violence.
Ah, well that explains a lot. Your opposition to political violence is conditional and politically motivated? Are you confident that you haven't been blindsided by a few glaring oversights by any of the intellectual giants of Irish Media? Where is the logic in being opposed to political violence, based on a mark on a piece of paper?

Basic Irish History Lesson:

- 'We' are 21 years past the GFA.

- The DUP were opposed to the GFA.

- Ulster Resistance never decommissioned.

..A successful new future for Northern Ireland will need to built upon the needs and aspirations of the living, and not on some misconceived desire to deliver "justice" to the dead - the dead have no use for justice...
- The collapse of the Unionist majority at the recent local elections, when it went from holding 242 to 209 seats, from an overall total of 462, needs to be seen within the context of the collapse of the Tory/UKIP vote, who lost a total of 1500 seats. What that means, with the 'union' under threat, is that 1 in 8 eligible voters were attracted to the DUP 'vision' for the future of 'Northern Ireland', and a minority of a minority, now dictate the terms of governance for the rest of the island.

Indeed, as many have said in the past, unionism seem to have a hierarchy of victims when it comes to the past conflict.
That dog will still be chasing its own tail Post-Unity, which will come as a result of geo-political events, immaterial of the net outcome of the creation of campaigns for the politically motivated hierarchy of victims: Nationalists and Unionists had majorities in 9 constituencies each, prior to the recent election. The balance of power has shifted, and Nationalists and Independents now have majorities in 10-11 constituencies, and 11-13 constituencies, inclusive of the Alliance Party, the Green Party and People Before Profit. The GFA was a British solution to an Irish problem, and wasn't designed to cater for the reality which is unfolding, which is similar to what happened in the south, when the 'union' withered between 1921 and 1949. If Socialist Republicanism or the Labour Movement were going to have any input into that process, a Congress or a Party would have evolved by this stage, and the numbers don't stack up for SF's 'winner-takes-all' strategy, other than to do business with FF, FG, the Alliance Party, the DUP and the UUP with the outcome 'cross-border' initiatives and 'joint-authority' for 'fairness' and 'balance'..

When the Irish Socialist Republican Frog asked the Irish Nationalist Scorpion why he had stung him half way across the river he replied: 'It's my nature. Casey, Connolly and Ó Cadhain warned you about my kind..'
 
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Tintin o'foole is an idiot who never supported the IRA in any guise, and is beloved of the Brit and Irish establishment.
He seems to be smart enough to answer the right questions that he asks of himself, and there aren't too many directions questions on Irish Dissident Republicanism can go. Hence why he won't ask, what they are 'Dissenting' from, but at the very same time, he's using a privileged position to accuse them of lacking the credentials of 'Republican Dissenters.' The truth of the matter is that the answers to questions about 'Dissent', whether on behalf of the Republic, or from the Republic, are awkward, reveal ugly truths, and create uncomfortable links with the past..
 

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Your opposition to political violence is conditional and politically motivated? Are you confident that you haven't been blindsided by a few glaring oversights by any of the intellectual giants of Irish Media? Where is the logic in being opposed to political violence"
It is not that I am opposed to political violence per se - there is no political violence in Northern Ireland in 2019 - just murderous, criminal thuggery.

The rioting in the Creggan, the murder of Lyra McKee, the bank robberies, the shakedowns of drug dealers - none of this is done to create a New Ireland. It is done for personal profit and the maintenance of mafia control within communities.
 

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I never said I'd like Mr Gallagher to be gagged and censored, and if he wants to explain and defend what he means by "understanding the violence" that would be great. But as with all threads on p.ie he'd better be prepared to get as good as he gives...
You have called for posters you disagree with to be banned, and suggested that you have drawn up a list here:

There's a couple of posters on this thread that should be banned, and you're at the head of that list..
After you wrongly accused people, including me, of being apologists for murder, as you done here:

You are an apologist for Saoradh and the criminal murderers of Lyra McKee. But I will not accuse you of not understanding, no my friend, you know exactly what you are doing.
X does not accept the democratic wishes of the people of Ireland - he does not accept the Good Friday Agreement...
That may or may not be the case, but anyone could make a similar claim about anyone opposed to the GFA, when it happened, 21 years ago, up to and including the largest unionist party, the DUP.

It is not that I am opposed to political violence per se - there is no political violence in Northern Ireland in 2019 - just murderous, criminal thuggery.
My opposition to political violence isn't conditional on support or opposition to any referendum. The GFA was signed more than 20 years ago, and what separates me and the overwhelming majority of people from you and your fellow travelers, is that we're not looking for brownie points for living ordinary, mundane and peaceful lives, whereas the difference with the thuggery you endorse, and the thuggery of your opponents, is quantitative, and that's the reason you come across as an out-and-out scumbag, while trying to occupy the higher moral ground.
 

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