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New politics - F Fitzgerald gives 3 times lottery money to her own constituency as whole of Cork


borntorum

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The Sunday Times reports today that Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald has allocated 14% of the total lottery funding distributed last year by her department to Dublin Mid West. Coincidentally no doubt, this happens to be her own constituency.

Approximately €70k of the department's budget of €500k went to Fitzgerald's constituency. In contrast, the whole
of Cork received €19k.

The ST also reports that Fitzgerald allocated a disproportionately large share of lottery funding to DMW in 2011.

Obviously if this was a FFer doing this we would know that it was purely stroke politics. But, given the self-evident fact that FGers are a morally and ethically purer species than their rivals, what was possibly explain this lavishing of funds in the Minister's own back yard?
 


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The Sunday Times reports today that Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald has allocated 14% of the total lottery funding distributed last year by her department to Dublin Mid West. Coincidentally no doubt, this happens to be her own constituency.

Approximately €70k of the department's budget of €500k went to Fitzgerald's constituency. In contrast, the whole
of Cork received €19k.

The ST also reports that Fitzgerald allocated a disproportionately large share of lottery funding to DMW in 2011.

Obviously if this was a FFer doing this we would know that it was purely stroke politics. But, given the self-evident fact that FGers are a morally and ethically purer species than their rivals, what was possibly explain this lavishing of funds in the Minister's own back yard?
I look forward to serried ranks of combine harvesters and fleets of trawlers appearing on the horizon shortly.
 

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I've lost any hope of the current government engaging in "new" politics; probably the turning point was a FG supporter on here telling me formal interviews for political appointees would be a waste of money depending on the salary involved, and a Labour Councillor saying he believed a minister simply picking who to appoint over a proper application process was more transparent and open.

But remember, the Irish people are to be castigated for having "short memories" when polls show a FF recovery; it's nothing to do with the bucket of sh*t presented to them by the current government.
 

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Based purely on population, Dublin Mid West would be entitled to about 3% of total funding.

But it's been acknowledged for a decade that this constituency - which includes Lucan and Adamstown - has radically higher needs for childcare support than (for example) any of the Cork constituencies.

On that basis, isn't it right that DMW should get above its 3% share? I'm not defending the 14% figure, but what do people think the fair share should be?
 

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Based purely on population, Dublin Mid West would be entitled to about 3% of total funding.

But it's been acknowledged for a decade that this constituency - which includes Lucan and Adamstown - has radically higher needs for childcare support than (for example) any of the Cork constituencies.

On that basis, isn't it right that DMW should get above its 3% share? I'm not defending the 14% figure, but what do people think the fair share should be?
Can you expand on that?
 

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Can you expand on that?
The population of West Dublin increased by about 12% between 2006 and 2011, with an extra 4,000 people moving into the Lucan/Esker area alone during that five year period.

This scale of population increase is radically ahead of anywhere outside Dublin, except for Portlaoise.

The vast majority of these people are young with with young children.
 

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The Sunday Times reports today that Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald has allocated 14% of the total lottery funding distributed last year by her department to Dublin Mid West. Coincidentally no doubt, this happens to be her own constituency.

Approximately €70k of the department's budget of €500k went to Fitzgerald's constituency. In contrast, the whole
of Cork received €19k.

The ST also reports that Fitzgerald allocated a disproportionately large share of lottery funding to DMW in 2011.

Obviously if this was a FFer doing this we would know that it was purely stroke politics. But, given the self-evident fact that FGers are a morally and ethically purer species than their rivals, what was possibly explain this lavishing of funds in the Minister's own back yard?
This is positively Fr.Fintan-Stack-esque.

More political strokes from FG - the party that gave us Dicey Reilly.

 
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The population of West Dublin increased by about 12% between 2006 and 2011, with an extra 4,000 people moving into the Lucan/Esker area alone during that five year period.

This scale of population increase is radically ahead of anywhere outside Dublin, except for Portlaoise.

The vast majority of these people are young with with young children.
And the population of Cork South Central? Cork North Central?
 

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And the population of Cork South Central? Cork North Central?
Neither of those constituencies have seen anything like the sort of radical population increases that west Dublin has seen in the last 5 years. Of the top 10 districts with the highest population increases, 3 were in west Dublin, and another 3 were in Fingal. None of the top 10 were in Cork.
 

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Your lack of knowledge of popular culture must mirror your lack of knowledge of politics.
Ar you finally admitting that the running of the country is now resembling a comedy show ?
 

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The Sunday Times reports today that Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald has allocated 14% of the total lottery funding distributed last year by her department to Dublin Mid West. Coincidentally no doubt, this happens to be her own constituency.

Approximately €70k of the department's budget of €500k went to Fitzgerald's constituency. In contrast, the whole
of Cork received €19k.

The ST also reports that Fitzgerald allocated a disproportionately large share of lottery funding to DMW in 2011.

Obviously if this was a FFer doing this we would know that it was purely stroke politics. But, given the self-evident fact that FGers are a morally and ethically purer species than their rivals, what was possibly explain this lavishing of funds in the Minister's own back yard?
id give fitzgerald the benefit of the doubt after she paid the legal fees for the failed defence of that booklet in the childrens referendum.......oh wait she didnt. time for the torches and rope!
 

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Fine Gael............

 

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Based purely on population, Dublin Mid West would be entitled to about 3% of total funding.

But it's been acknowledged for a decade that this constituency - which includes Lucan and Adamstown - has radically higher needs for childcare support than (for example) any of the Cork constituencies.

On that basis, isn't it right that DMW should get above its 3% share? I'm not defending the 14% figure, but what do people think the fair share should be?


a 'fair share' would be the same % the people of dmw spent on tix to begin with... i.e. if the good burghers of dmw spent, say, 5% of the lottery's income thatyear then they should get 5% of it's allocations back, no more, no less

same with cork by the way


it's the ONLY fair way to distribute the funds in my opinion
 

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Neither of those constituencies have seen anything like the sort of radical population increases that west Dublin has seen in the last 5 years. Of the top 10 districts with the highest population increases, 3 were in west Dublin, and another 3 were in Fingal. None of the top 10 were in Cork.
Would you have a link to those stats?
 

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The Sunday Times reports today that Minister for Children Frances Fitzgerald has allocated 14% of the total lottery funding distributed last year by her department to Dublin Mid West. Coincidentally no doubt, this happens to be her own constituency.

Approximately €70k of the department's budget of €500k went to Fitzgerald's constituency. In contrast, the whole
of Cork received €19k.

The ST also reports that Fitzgerald allocated a disproportionately large share of lottery funding to DMW in 2011.

Obviously if this was a FFer doing this we would know that it was purely stroke politics. But, given the self-evident fact that FGers are a morally and ethically purer species than their rivals, what was possibly explain this lavishing of funds in the Minister's own back yard?
What was the money spent on?
 

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a 'fair share' would be the same % the people of dmw spent on tix to begin with... i.e. if the good burghers of dmw spent, say, 5% of the lottery's income thatyear then they should get 5% of it's allocations back, no more, no less

same with cork by the way


it's the ONLY fair way to distribute the funds in my opinion
I see. So areas which spend the most on the Lotto - richer areas - should get a bigger share of the proceeds.

What a charming proposal.
 

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Ryan Tubbs

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Those stats clearly support your point. However, wrt allocation of funds, they should be allocated on a socioeconomic/population basis and not on a constituency basis. Otherwise the allocations smack of political strokes.
Well clearly the funds HAVE been allocated on a population/socioeconomic basis. It's just that the Sunday Times has grouped the various allocations into constituencies!

And that's the problem here. After 15 years of FF Ministers doling out the goodies to constituents (who happily lapped it up and lavished praise on said ministers) the hypocritical Irish populace are now insisting that constituents of Ministers should be PUNISHED by not getting anything which could even remotely be perceived as parish-pump cronyism.

It's a good example of the hypocrisy and massive amnesia that has set in after the bust. Post-conflict dissonance of some kind.
 

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