New Survey shows widespread support for Militant Republicanism

Cael

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Date: 06 October 2010

Belfast Newsletter

ALARMING new figures show that 14 per cent of nationalists sympathise with dissident republican terrorists.
The disturbing findings come amid fears of an escalation in dissident attacks following the overnight car bomb which wrecked buildings near the centre of Londonderry early yesterday.

According to research to be unveiled by Professor Jon Tonge of Liverpool University at a conference at Queen's University tomorrow, 14 per cent of those identifying as nationalists in a survey have "sympathy for the reasons why some republican groups (such as the Real and Continuity IRAs) continue to use violence".

The findings are clearly at odds with the views of Londonderry's police commander Stephen Martin who yesterday said the terrorists "had no support" or "legitimacy".

But writing in the News Letter, Mr Tonge said: "One of the mantras of the peace process is that 'dissident' republicans have no support ... Yet the assumption that dissidents have no support has been precisely that – an assumption, untroubled by actual evidence either way."

Shock as dissident support revealed - Belfast Today
 


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I'm inclined to think they've got a lot more sympaty than just 14%.

With sympaty being the operative word here rather than full support for example.

I think a lot of people would keep their feelings on this to themselves rather than tell some random pollster/MI5 man their thoughts.
 

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If 14% of people have sympathy with their cause I’m assuming the remaining 86% are apathetic at best.

I wouldn’t class this as widespread.
 

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If 14% actually told strangers doing a survey that they have sympathy with militant Republicanism, then the true figure is at least twice that. It also shows that a lot of people voting for PSF dont actually believe the GFA is going anywhere.
 

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I wouldn’t class this as widespread.
It certainly gives the lie to those like Martin McGuinness who were trying to claim that Militant Republicans have zero support.
 

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So 86% of Nationalists surveyed don't support the dissidents.
A pretty clear message of condemnation
 

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So 86% of Nationalists surveyed don't support the dissidents.
A pretty clear message of condemnation
86% told unknown persons from Liverpool that they dont support those who oppose British rule. The amazing thing is that 14% told them straight up into their Brit faces that they arent wanted.
 

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Can we expect to see candidates for elections to test this poll ,must be tempting or does it clash with their view that they are already the govenment of all Ireland ( a bunch of diesel smugglers. smackheads ,bogmen ,criminals , adventurors and shell suited no brains ) .Gawd help oul Ireland .
 

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Can we expect to see candidates for elections to test this poll ,must be tempting or does it clash with their view that they are already the govenment of all Ireland ( a bunch of diesel smugglers. smackheads ,bogmen ,criminals , adventurors and shell suited no brains ) .Gawd help oul Ireland .
Nobody with any sense would take part in fake bourgeois elections.
 

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Can we expect to see candidates for elections to test this poll
Nobody with any sense would take part in fake bourgeois elections.
 

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( a bunch of diesel smugglers. smackheads ,bogmen ,criminals , adventurors and shell suited no brains )
Certainly, you have just described the inmates of Leinster House and Stormont.
 

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Only uneducated peasants support thuggery and violence under the convenient umbrella of nationalism.They're basically unemployed losers who have little or no education and nothing better to do.
 

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Cael did you actually read the question asked or are you relying on too many British media sources again?

The question was:
"And thinking about why some Republican groups (such as the Real IRA and Continuity IRA and often called „dissident republicans‟) continue to use violence, would you say that you have any sympathy with the reasons for the violence – even if you don‟t condone the violence itself?
 

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FF would be proud of the spin in the OP. I have sympathy for the reasons for violence, but that certainly doesn't equate to support.
 

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Cael did you actually read the question asked or are you relying on too many British media sources again?

The question was:
"And thinking about why some Republican groups (such as the Real IRA and Continuity IRA and often called „dissident republicans‟) continue to use violence, would you say that you have any sympathy with the reasons for the violence – even if you don‟t condone the violence itself?
Nobody is in favour of violence. Indeed, it is the IRA who are most against violence and most for peace.
 

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FF would be proud of the spin in the OP. I have sympathy for the reasons for violence, but that certainly doesn't equate to support.
Do you believe in the laws of cause and effect?
 

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Only uneducated peasants support thuggery and violence under the convenient umbrella of nationalism.They're basically unemployed losers who have little or no education and nothing better to do.

Yes, this is a good description of those dupes who join the British army and go off to be killed in foreign adventures in places like Ireland and Afganistan.
 

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Nobody is in favour of violence. Indeed, it is the IRA who are most against violence and most for peace.
Of course, Ghandi has nothing on these guys.
 

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At least 1 in 7 members of the nationalist community support these random acts of criminal terror. Disconcerting.
 


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