New UFO sightings and evidence 2017

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2 Navy Airmen and an Object That ‘Accelerated Like Nothing I’ve Ever Seen’
The following recounts an incident in 2004 that advocates of research into U.F.O.s have said is the kind of event worthy of more investigation, and that was studied by a Pentagon program that investigated U.F.O.s. Experts caution that earthly explanations often exist for such incidents, and that not knowing the explanation does not mean that the event has interstellar origins.
Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight were on a routine training mission 100 miles out into the Pacific when the radio in each of their F/A-18F Super Hornets crackled: An operations officer aboard the U.S.S. Princeton, a Navy cruiser, wanted to know if they were carrying weapons
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.html

Head of Pentagon’s secret ‘UFO’ office sought to make evidence public
Just before leaving his Defense Department job two months ago, intelligence officer Luis Elizondo quietly arranged to secure the release of three of the most unusual videos in the Pentagon’s secret vaults: raw footage from encounters between fighter jets and “anomalous aerial vehicles” — military jargon for UFOs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/head-of-pentagons-secret-ufo-office-sought-to-make-evidence-public/2017/12/16/90bcb7cc-e2b2-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-cards_hp-card-national:homepage/card&utm_term=.236173183802

Newly released video captured by U.S. Navy pilots offers an inside look at a secretive government program that investigated unidentified flying objects. The Defense Department says it ended the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program in 2012 over funding issues. Tony Dokoupil shows us two UFO encounters captured on camera.
[video=youtube;hdzUOItDxXg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzUOItDxXg[/video]


Okay are we generally accepting now we've been visited from other possibly more advanced life forms? Because the ramifications of this are truly enormous. This is the framework of hope that motivates space travel and scientific achievement. If found to be real, it will be evidence that somehow, travel across the Void to alien worlds is possible. If false, then we are plunged into a logical but extremely nihilistic conclusion.
 
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Given the billions of stars in the universe to believe we are the only intelligent life is crazy, it's a matter of when not if.
 

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Given the billions of stars in the universe to believe we are the only intelligent life is crazy, it's a matter of when not if.
Counter that with the distances between Stars is so great that interstellar travel by sentient beings is a very long shot indeed

We may however be visited by robotic devises

- or more likely pick up signals that could only have an intelligent source

The Truth is Out there :shock:

But we might miss it in the Dark.............................................................................................................................................
 

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Okay are we generally accepting now we've been visited from other possibly more advanced life forms? Because the ramifications of this are truly enormous. This is the framework of hope that motivates space travel and scientific achievement. If found to be real, it will be evidence that somehow, travel across the Void to alien worlds is possible. If false, then we are plunged into a logical but extremely nihilistic conclusion.
hope still exists if this case is proven false.

would presume an astronomer would see it first though. The states have a history of this getting into mainstream. Could be other reasons for it, testing new aircraft, turning their population into spotters for russian planes, getting popular support to increase military budget.
 

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- or more likely pick up signals that could only have an intelligent source
Maybe they picked up Tubridy's and Darcy's radio shows and put the planet on a "no visits" list?
 
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Counter that with the distances between Stars is so great that interstellar travel by sentient beings is a very long shot indeed

We may however be visited by robotic devises

- or more likely pick up signals that could only have an intelligent source

The Truth is Out there :shock:

But we might miss it in the Dark.............................................................................................................................................
Folding Space is the only real way to travel the stars. Of course, Interdimensional Beings could be our visitors and not our Space neighbours.
 

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Given the billions of stars in the universe to believe we are the only intelligent life is crazy, it's a matter of when not if.
I'd counter that with given the billions of camera phones on earth these days and the vast improvement in communications technology over the last quarter of a century and we still haven't got a decent shot of one.
 

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Given the billions of stars in the universe to believe we are the only intelligent life is crazy, it's a matter of when not if.
And with those billions of stars and the billions of years the universe has existed, surely some must be millions of years more advanced than us, and still no contact?
So even if they haven't contacted us yet, it's not very likely that they will over the next million years either.
 

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If false, then we are plunged into a logical but extremely nihilistic conclusion.
If we're the only life in the Universe - it would support the whole theory that there is a God and she/he created life here.
And perhaps our purpose is to go discover the Universe.
 

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my question for them would be do they have to pay VAT on stuff where they come from
 

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And with those billions of stars and the billions of years the universe has existed, surely some must be millions of years more advanced than us, and still no contact?
So even if they haven't contacted us yet, it's not very likely that they will over the next million years either.
Unless they've developed a warp speed sort of thing we may never hear from them. Even light speed is too slow.
 

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The Fermi paradox folks.

We would have intercepted their communications and we haven't.

If there is intelligent, star faring life out there, it will be a long, long time before we meet them - it is possible they exist at a far flung part of our own galaxy or even in another galaxy (and if so probably never meet them).

What they are not doing is visiting us discretely - its possible of course, but highly unlikely.
 

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It’s an unusual image however infra red video can make some objects look far more unusual than they really are, for example these shots of a Concord aircraft with its engines in reheat....



Or this schematic showing how the heat signature of an A340 might look.



https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-encounter-with-unknown-object.t9333/

Weren't the pilots actually eyeballing it(whatever it was) and didn't they remark on it's speed and the way it was manoeuvering...
 

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Unless they've developed a warp speed sort of thing we may never hear from them. Even light speed is too slow.
yes, but the point is, that after 4 billion years (or whatever age the universe is), a million years is a very short time period.
So if they haven't been here already, it's unlikely they'll be here in the next million years.
 

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Weren't the pilots actually eyeballing it(whatever it was) and didn't they remark on it's speed and the way it was manoeuvering...
Yes but they were about 2 miles away from it based on their estimation of the altitude of the object and their own altitude. It’s difficult to see much detail at that range.
 

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It is weird the way the object seems to rotate.
 

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Yes but they were about 2 miles away from it based on their estimation of the altitude of the object and their own altitude. It’s difficult to see much detail at that range.

Maybe so but experienced navy pilots wouldn't express surprise at what the object was doing unless it was truly unusual, surely.
 


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