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NI labour petition


Garza

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I put this in the Irish Labour forum as well.

Northern Irish Labour are trying to persuade British Labour to be able to allow them to stand on a non-sectarian, socialist platform, pro-normal politics in Northern Ireland, they need signatures to try and make this a reality. If you want to show your support for this, you can sign in the link below. Thanks.

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I thought mainland parties didn't stand here becuase they know they don't have a chance of gaining votes outside the old unionist/nationalist lines? I think normal politics is a bit of a way off for us yet.
 

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Was tried in 1980's to get Labour organised in NI and failed ......unfortunately .UUP tried with their Tory link ,failed .Still not mature enough to do it whenever we have institutionalised sectarianism through GFA and promoted DUP and SF as main blocs.
 

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I put this in the Irish Labour forum as well.

Northern Irish Labour are trying to persuade British Labour to be able to allow them to stand on a non-sectarian, socialist platform, pro-normal politics in Northern Ireland, they need signatures to try and make this a reality. If you want to show your support for this, you can sign in the link below. Thanks.
However subjectively non-sectarian they may be anybody who supports the partition of is objectively sectarian. Therefore only anti-GFA Republicans can be considered non-sectarian.

Secondly the British Labour Party is NOT socialist. Socialism is NOT a paternalistic welfare state which they dont seem even to believe anymore.
 

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Was tried in 1980's to get Labour organised in NI and failed ......unfortunately .UUP tried with their Tory link ,failed .Still not mature enough to do it whenever we have institutionalised sectarianism through GFA and promoted DUP and SF as main blocs.
There was a Labour Unionist Party in the 1918 elections.

The debate between James Connolly and William Walker (a left-wing Unionist) are well worth reading.
 

Garza

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There was a Labour Unionist Party in the 1918 elections.

The debate between James Connolly and William Walker (a left-wing Unionist) are well worth reading.
Didn't the Labour "unionist" party once hold the West Belfast seat?
 

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Didn't the Labour "unionist" party once hold the West Belfast seat?
I will have to check up....I think they got more than one seat.

If anybody knows a history of them Id interested to know about it.
 

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I will have to check up....I think they got more than one seat.

If anybody knows a history of them Id interested to know about it.
What I remember, the NI labour party were sucessful before the troubles, and consisted of working class protestants and catholics, unionists and nationalists. The majority of which were nationalists.
 

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What I remember, the NI labour party were sucessful before the troubles, and consisted of working class protestants and catholics, unionists and nationalists. The majority of which were nationalists.
Are you sure?

Because the Northern Ireland Labour Party which came to end sometime in the 1980s was formed because of a decision by the British Labour Party to hand over everything they were doing in the north of Ireland to the Irish Labour Party by Protestant members. Another interesting fact was that the Communist Party in the six counties was overwhelmingly (almost entirely) Protestant until the late 70s when they absorbed a lot of membership of the Officials who were annoyed at the Eoghan Harris turn in that movement...They still are mostly Protestant today.

There was also a Republican Labour Party.

During the troubles the right wing of the British Labour Party alligned itself with the SDLP and the left wing with Sinn Fein (at least during the 80s and 90s).
 

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Are you sure?

Because the Northern Ireland Labour Party which came to end sometime in the 1980s was formed because of a decision by the British Labour Party to hand over everything they were doing in the north of Ireland to the Irish Labour Party by Protestant members. Another interesting fact was that the Communist Party in the six counties was overwhelmingly (almost entirely) Protestant until the late 70s when they absorbed a lot of membership of the Officials who were annoyed at the Eoghan Harris turn in that movement...They still are mostly Protestant today.

There was also a Republican Labour Party.

During the troubles the right wing of the British Labour Party alligned itself with the SDLP and the left wing with Sinn Fein (at least during the 80s and 90s).
Was talking about the NI Labour party pre-troubles, don't know enough about the NI Labour party in the 80's to comment.
 

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Was talking about the NI Labour party pre-troubles, don't know enough about the NI Labour party in the 80's to comment.
But there were two Labour parties pre-troubles....Republican Labour and the NI Labour Party...Neither of which were officially linked to the British Labour Party.
 

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What I remember, the NI labour party were sucessful before the troubles, and consisted of working class protestants and catholics, unionists and nationalists. The majority of which were nationalists.
The NILP was effectively a unionist party, certainly from the late 1940s when faced with the declaration of a republic in the south and the Anti-Partition League, it was forced to basically take a position. Having said that, it did accomodate people like Paddy Devlin too, and did receive a lot of votes from people who went on to vote nationalist post-69. People like Eamonn McCann were also affiliated to it via the Young Socialists.
 

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Ah the good old Northern Ireland Labour Party.

This is the same party whose Belfast councillors were happy to see playground swings chained up on a Sunday.

Roll on 40 years and meet the ancestors.

The PUP.
 

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