No bailout without by-elections in january...

nonpartyboy

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Listening to the delusional ff and green ministers, if this crowd get their hands on more money there is no way they won't attempt to hang on, with all sorts of crap about need for certainty etc. all this crap about the state is fully funded, the banks aren't that's what has the ecb so terrified, ff are going to use this to their advantage not the country's.


We need a guarantee of the by-elections to fix this country come january come on our european friends, give us something to feel confident about, please ?
 


nonpartyboy

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The By elections?!?!?!

Hell, let's have the Biggie!
That's probably going a bit too far for the ECB/IMF to be accused of interference, but they should insist that the vacanacies are filled as party of any deal, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
 

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How about plan B?

1. We do not accept the transfer of €90bn of banking loans from the ECB to the State. (bizarrely referred to as a bailout)
2. The Bank guarantee is revoked - save for Bank if Ireland. ie we default.
3. We balance our budgets for the next 4 years, until we can get loans for capital projects. (this would require a fair tax system, massive cuts to public sector pay bill and social welfare, end capital investment).

Why should workers accept another €33,000 of debt per head? This is the ECB's problem not ours. The solution described above would cause some capital flight, industrial strife, social unrest and real poverty - but it still sounds better than Irish Taxpayers bailing out European Bondholders, the banks, our real central bank and our European 'partners'. Again. (FF, poor regulation, greed of bankers, cheap money, unsuitable currency, got Ireland into this mess, not the Irish taxpayer).

Also forget the by-elections, we need a General Election campiagn now.
 

Tea Party Patriot

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How about plan B?

1. We do not accept the transfer of €90bn of banking loans from the ECB to the State. (bizarrely referred to as a bailout)
2. The Bank guarantee is revoked - save for Bank if Ireland. ie we default.
3. We balance our budgets for the next 4 years, until we can get loans for capital projects. (this would require a fair tax system, massive cuts to public sector pay bill and social welfare, end capital investment).

Why should workers accept another €33,000 of debt per head? This is the ECB's problem not ours. The solution described above would cause some capital flight, industrial strife, social unrest and real poverty - but it still sounds better than Irish Taxpayers bailing out European Bondholders, the banks, our real central bank and our European 'partners'. Again. (FF, poor regulation, greed of bankers, cheap money, unsuitable currency, got Ireland into this mess, not the Irish taxpayer).

Also forget the by-elections, we need a General Election campiagn now.
Why save BOI it should go with the rest of them if it can't stand on its own. Ulster bank is well positioned to fullfill our retail needs.
 

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How about plan B?

1. We do not accept the transfer of €90bn of banking loans from the ECB to the State. (bizarrely referred to as a bailout)
2. The Bank guarantee is revoked - save for Bank if Ireland. ie we default.
3. We balance our budgets for the next 4 years, until we can get loans for capital projects. (this would require a fair tax system, massive cuts to public sector pay bill and social welfare, end capital investment).

Why should workers accept another €33,000 of debt per head? This is the ECB's problem not ours. The solution described above would cause some capital flight, industrial strife, social unrest and real poverty - but it still sounds better than Irish Taxpayers bailing out European Bondholders, the banks, our real central bank and our European 'partners'. Again. (FF, poor regulation, greed of bankers, cheap money, unsuitable currency, got Ireland into this mess, not the Irish taxpayer).

Also forget the by-elections, we need a General Election campiagn now.
I Agree. 100%
 


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