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No Hard Questions Please, I'm Senator Mullen


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After previous refusals, Senator Rónán Mullen, formerly spokesman for Cardinal Desmond Connell, partially answers questions on the Murphy report. He had previously refused to answer any questions from the newspaper over the phone, insisting they be e-mailed to him before he would reply.

The seven questions Mr Mullen did not answer are as follows:

  • The Murphy report was published on November 26th last. Almost three weeks have passed and you have made no response to its findings. Why is this?
  • Do you believe your own credibility on other issues may have been affected by this prolonged silence from one known to have a well-publicised interest in issues of importance to Catholics?
  • What are your reflections on the findings of the Murphy report that there was a cover-up at Archbishop’s House?
  • What are your reflections on the findings of the Murphy report where Cardinal Connell is concerned?
  • What are your reflections on the findings of the Murphy report where the bishops named in the report are concerned?
  • Do you believe the serving bishops named in the Murphy report should resign?
  • Where to from here for Catholicism in Ireland?
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These questions don't appear all that difficult to answer - yet the Senator appears to have a mental block on them - strange for a politician not to offer an opinion, even stranger for a politician to have reservations about voicing his own opinions.

 


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Well I cant imagine why he wont come on here and answer your questions at 8.30 in the morning ,on a forum full of lunatics!:rolleyes:
 
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Thanks for starting this thread, Andrew. I was thinking of doing it myself after I read this article in the Irish Times:'I had never even heard of the concept of mental reservation' - The Irish Times - Sat, Dec 19, 2009, but have been a bit busy trying to meet a deadline. You have done a far better job of exposing his duplicity than I could have.:)

What an evasive, slippery slimebag he comes across as! Incidentally, how did he ever get into the Seanad? I know it's just a talking shop mainly populated by failed politicians who have been kicked upstairs, but surely it's not right for it to be used as a sinecure for washed-up employees of the kiddy-fiddler church as well.:rolleyes:

I also find it extraordinarily hard to believe he never heard of mental reservation. The guy is a walking, talking incorporation of that stratagem.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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Andrew, let me give you a sneak-preview...

These findings are deeply disturbing to all Catholics... blah blah... hurt... forgiveness... good work... disturbed also at another agenda being advanced... Catholic schools have implemented world-class child protection policies... parental choice... blah blah... secularist intolerance... waffle... blah blah...

"So, Ronan, what did you about clerlical sex abuse when you worked in Archbishops House?" "Waffle... blah blah... another agenda..."
 

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Andrew, let me give you a sneak-preview...

These findings are deeply disturbing to all Catholics... blah blah... hurt... forgiveness... good work... disturbed also at another agenda being advanced... Catholic schools have implemented world-class child protection policies... parental choice... blah blah... secularist intolerance... waffle... blah blah...

"So, Ronan, what did you about clerlical sex abuse when you worked in Archbishops House?" "Waffle... blah blah... another agenda..."
Probably. Sounds authentic.
 

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Is that the same guy who wrote an article occassionally in the Irish Times ? Seem to remember he was like something out of the Victorian era.
 

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Fascinating indeed. He has had plenty to say in previous years in defence of the church.

Like this from his examiner column from 2004:

Link here.

He was dealing with a piece in Village magazine about the fact that members of a Catholic Church working group on child protection , such as abuse victim Marie Collins had quit the group saying that the church had refused to accept the standards they wanted set for child protection.

Collins and others wanted policy which required cases to be notified to the civil authorities. The bishops insisted that they alone should retain the final say in whether or not a case was referred to the Guards or HSE.

Since 1996, they (bishops) have adhered to a voluntary code of conduct, the so-called Green Book, which requires them to notify the gardaí if they have knowledge or suspicion of abuse. They also established panels of experts to advise them on their obligations where allegations of abuse were made.

The former Archbishop of Dublin, Desmond Connell, made it clear that he adhered to the advice given and honoured his reporting obligations.

THIS is the context in which the dispute over the Lynott Group should be considered. There was no talk of the Church not reporting abuse cases. The issue was, how to report? And if the Church had shown its good intentions by putting together a team of experts to make recommendations, why all the acrimony when there were points of disagreement? Surely people should have kept talking instead of making their reservations public.

It all comes down to trust. Some people seem unwilling to believe that the Church wants bona fide structures to prevent abuse.

“It is extraordinary that we continue to look to the Church to protect our children,” wrote Colm O’Gorman of the victim support agency One In Four.

O’Gorman’s refusal to trust the Church may be understandable, but is increasingly out of touch with the more competent Church handling of child protection matters of recent times.
I have highlighted the more outrageous parts in bold.

Remember Mullen used to be Cardinal Connell's press advisor and worked for the Archdiocese during a number of years investigated by the Dublin Commission.
 

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Is that the same guy who wrote an article occassionally in the Irish Times ? Seem to remember he was like something out of the Victorian era.
He was a columnist in the Irish Examiner, a very regular media commentator, a former employee of Cardinal Desmond Connell and a steadfast defender of the church for may years in the face of accusations f the cover up now proven.
 

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He was a columnist in the Irish Examiner, a very regular media commentator, a former employee of Cardinal Desmond Connell and a steadfast defender of the church for may years in the face of accusations f the cover up now proven.
Sorry, you're right. I remember now it was in the Examiner. He was like Alice Glenn reincarnated.
 

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Thanks for starting this thread, Andrew. I was thinking of doing it myself after I read this article in the Irish Times:'I had never even heard of the concept of mental reservation' - The Irish Times - Sat, Dec 19, 2009, but have been a bit busy trying to meet a deadline. You have done a far better job of exposing his duplicity than I could have.:)

What an evasive, slippery slimebag he comes across as! Incidentally, how did he ever get into the Seanad? I know it's just a talking shop mainly populated by failed politicians who have been kicked upstairs, but surely it's not right for it to be used as a sinecure for washed-up employees of the kiddy-fiddler church as well.:rolleyes:

I also find it extraordinarily hard to believe he never heard of mental reservation. The guy is a walking, talking incorporation of that stratagem.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
The Gentleman Senator is a strange guy - his comment on the Ryan Report was a bit odd:
As we all know, the young people in the institutions were not guilty of any sin.
And I've seen him on VB Tonight recently manically shifting from right buttock to left buttock as he evaded questions on the issue of Cardinal Connell's complicity in the cover-up, recently exposed in the Murphy Report. [Edit: and a question on what exactly was: Catholic Ethos]
 

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He was elected to the Seanad by graduates of the various Colleges in the National University.

Took Brendan Ryan's seat iirc.
 

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Andrew, let me give you a sneak-preview...

These findings are deeply disturbing to all Catholics... blah blah... hurt... forgiveness... good work... disturbed also at another agenda being advanced... Catholic schools have implemented world-class child protection policies... parental choice... blah blah... secularist intolerance... waffle... blah blah...

"So, Ronan, what did you about clerlical sex abuse when you worked in Archbishops House?" "Waffle... blah blah... another agenda..."

His time with Dessie in Drumcondra has to have been the highlight of his life to date. There he was at the centre of power, side by side with Dessie - Dessie of course swamped in paperwork [0ver 60,000 documents alone] dealing with 'errant' clergy, one particular insurance company, solicitors ..... by my estimate during Dessie's term as Cardinal Cover-Upper he was dealing with 11 documents a day ... all to do with the abuses committed by clergy.

The Gentleman Senator was, of course, ignorant of the storm that was happening around O'Connell. All that paper flying around Dessie would have seemed to Ronan as just more proof that Dessie was 'such a well-read' man.

Ronan was just a Press guy and wouldn't have noticed a thing, not at all, at all to be sure.
 

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After previous refusals, Senator Rónán Mullen, formerly spokesman for Cardinal Desmond Connell, partially answers questions on the Murphy report. He had previously refused to answer any questions from the newspaper over the phone, insisting they be e-mailed to him before he would reply.

The seven questions Mr Mullen did not answer are as follows:

  • The Murphy report was published on November 26th last. Almost three weeks have passed and you have made no response to its findings. Why is this?
  • Do you believe your own credibility on other issues may have been affected by this prolonged silence from one known to have a well-publicised interest in issues of importance to Catholics?
  • What are your reflections on the findings of the Murphy report that there was a cover-up at Archbishop’s House?
  • What are your reflections on the findings of the Murphy report where Cardinal Connell is concerned?
  • What are your reflections on the findings of the Murphy report where the bishops named in the report are concerned?
  • Do you believe the serving bishops named in the Murphy report should resign?
  • Where to from here for Catholicism in Ireland?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

These questions don't appear all that difficult to answer - yet the Senator appears to have a mental block on them - strange for a politician not to offer an opinion, even stranger for a politician to have reservations about voicing his own opinions.


Interesting points. Would a spokesman be privy to all the happenings amongst the Bishops? I genuinely don't know enough as to whether a spokeman is privy to such things or even forms part of the counsel received bu the Bishops.
 

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Sorry, you're right. I remember now it was in the Examiner. He was like Alice Glenn reincarnated.
My god, what an awful idea! Worse again, the more I think of it, the more right you are!

Damn you, cricket, for putting that in my head! I'll have nightmares tonight for sure!
 

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He is on Drivetime with Mary Wilson now.

Says Cardinal Connell is a red herring because he is no longer in a position to influence events.

Asked about whether the remaining former Auxiliary Bishops still in Church office should resign he says he feels very conflicted depending on the individuals concerned.
 
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By the way, Senator Rónán I-heard-it-at-a-busstop Mullen is due on RTÉ at any minute to give his reaction to the Murphy Report.

RTÉ Radio
Ronan says: "We need big gestures from the Church"

And he did say he spoke out on the publication of the Ryan Report:
:As we all know, the young people in the institutions were not guilty of any sin.
???????
 

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