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No Sinn Fein candidate apparent in Dun Laoghaire Rathdown[Local elections]


Socratus O' Pericles

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The local elections are coming into sharper focus now.

In Dun Laoghaire FF have launched a shiny new candidate Jennifer Cuffe with a four page glossy mag. and loads of photographs of her with "important people"-she'll surely take a seat at the locals.

What puzzles me is where is SF -despite its outward rep. there is a substantial working class vote in and around Dunlaoghaire -Shankill N, Bray N., Ballybrack, Sallynoggin and quite a few other pockets sprinkled around.

Even Eoin O'Broin a notoriously poor electoral performer managed to scrape together 1,200 first preferences in the 2007 election -where are the young SF hopefuls?

If they ever want to get into power they’d need to be taking a seat in a 4-seater. The way to do that is run good candidates in the locals.

Cad tá amú?
 


onlyasking

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The local elections are coming into sharper focus now.

In Dun Laoghaire FF have launched a shiny new candidate Jennifer Cuffe with a four page glossy mag. and loads of photographs of her with "important people"-she'll surely take a seat at the locals.
Could she possibly be related to Ciaran Cuffe? I suppose the Greens fell for FF's charms, ultimately destroying themselves in the process, so anything is possible.

What puzzles me is where is SF -despite its outward rep. there is a substantial working class vote in and around Dunlaoghaire -Shankill N, Bray N., Ballybrack, Sallynoggin and quite a few other pockets sprinkled around.
Oh yes, but it's not known as The Royal Borough for nothing. There's a Royal British Legion club and all (I've been in it, admiring the portrait of Her Majesty behind the bar while being served by a heavily tattooed former squaddie). As for the southern part of the constituency i.e. Bray north, Shankill, Ballybrack etc, there's no doubt that SF's anti-establishment position would be attractive to quite a few people, and not all of them in the more deprived areas either.

Even Eoin O'Broin a notoriously poor electoral performer managed to scrape together 1,200 first preferences in the 2007 election -where are the young SF hopefuls?
O'Broin polled over 5,000 in Dublin Mid-west in 2011 AFAIK, so I have a feeling you may have missed what was a credible performance on his part. He's actually, in my view, one of the best of SF's 'younger' generation (he comes across as younger than he is).

If they ever want to get into power they’d need to be taking a seat in a 4-seater. The way to do that is run good candidates in the locals.

Cad tá amú?
I agree that they should be running candidates in this constituency and some of its wards in the locals. I'd like to know the reasoning behind their uncharacteristic shyness hereabouts. I'm willing enough to lend my vote to RB Barrett again, but there's room here for another political representative of the riff-raff hated by FF, FG and, apparently, Labour.

SF probably don't have a traditional infrastructure on the ground here, which would be useful in the locals, but I'd give O'Broin a vote in whatever election he stood for if he returned to these parts to compete.
 

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Could she possibly be related to Ciaran Cuffe? I suppose the Greens fell for FF's charms, ultimately destroying themselves in the process, so anything is possible.



Oh yes, but it's not known as The Royal Borough for nothing. There's a Royal British Legion club and all (I've been in it, admiring the portrait of Her Majesty behind the bar while being served by a heavily tattooed former squaddie). As for the southern part of the constituency i.e. Bray north, Shankill, Ballybrack etc, there's no doubt that SF's anti-establishment position would be attractive to quite a few people, and not all of them in the more deprived areas either.



O'Broin polled over 5,000 in Dublin Mid-west in 2011 AFAIK, so I have a feeling you may have missed what was a credible performance on his part. He's actually, in my view, one of the best of SF's 'younger' generation (he comes across as younger than he is).



I agree that they should be running candidates in this constituency and some of its wards in the locals. I'd like to know the reasoning behind their uncharacteristic shyness hereabouts. I'm willing enough to lend my vote to RB Barrett again, but there's room here for another political representative of the riff-raff hated by FF, FG and, apparently, Labour.

SF probably don't have a traditional infrastructure on the ground here, which would be useful in the locals, but I'd give O'Broin a vote in whatever election he stood for if he returned to these parts to compete.
I mssed that DMW performance that is a good return. SF do seem to have supporters locally but no one ever runs ffor the Council -strange one.
 

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IEL has old election results. The only time they came close to taking a seat in the area was in 1985 when Kevin Fitzpatrick polled 1,000 votes and missed out on the last seat.

I'd say it's right at the bottom in terms of targeted areas. Lack of some sort of party infrastructure and also the fact that PbP seems to have that vote taken are the reasons.
Old Local Election Results « Irish Election Literature

Oh yes, but it's not known as The Royal Borough for nothing.
It's difficult to escape that impression. Dun Laoghaire is like a little bit of south England planted in Ireland (East pier is lovely by the way).
 

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I think the local rep is Shane Connolly O'Brien.



He has been organising public meetings and events. Keep your eyes open.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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Apart from a couple of facebook mentions the lad has no profile on t'internet- we certainly don't know him-could do with a website of his own.
 

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Seemingly its all part of the reunification of ireland agreement. The six counties get reunited with southern Ireland and the unionists get to live and rule in dun laoghaire and rathdown.

Everyones happy ma'am.
 

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Actually, moderate unionists would be most welcome in Dun Laoghaire - and in many other southern constituencies.
 

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Actually, moderate unionists would be most welcome in Dun Laoghaire - and in many other southern constituencies.
Moderate? Choosy aren't we?
 

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IEL has old election results. The only time they came close to taking a seat in the area was in 1985 when Kevin Fitzpatrick polled 1,000 votes and missed out on the last seat.

I'd say it's right at the bottom in terms of targeted areas. Lack of some sort of party infrastructure and also the fact that PbP seems to have that vote taken are the reasons.
Old Local Election Results « Irish Election Literature
Those reasons are plausible, though perhaps as add-on reasons in addition to something else. I just can't work out what that something else is.

Time to phone someone to ask. Where's that green phone for the hotline........ Eh, Gerry, I have a question for you....d'ya know Dun Laoghaire........

It's difficult to escape that impression. Dun Laoghaire is like a little bit of south England planted in Ireland (East pier is lovely by the way).
I like the kind of southern English coastal town you mean, and I like Dun Laoghaire too. It could do with a pub by the sea though, something that Dublin seems, weirdly in my view, to have a phobia about. And when I mean, by the sea, I don't mean the old Forty Foot across the road from the harbour.

Oh, by the way, the West Pier is nice too, in a different, more rundown way. A few dogs, but not half as much dirt as a few years ago.

From SF to southern English towns to the West Pier via the East one, with a few pubs thrown in..... A SF thread with a tone like that? How odd.
 

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Actually, moderate unionists would be most welcome in Dun Laoghaire - and in many other southern constituencies.
"Would be"?

You'll find that places like DLR and and other eastern and central parts of south County Dublin have a fair few home-grown unionists of varying hues already.

Seriously, I know you probably mean "moderate unionists" from the north. Give me one of them any day over a recently-converted neo-unionist zealot from south County Dublin any day.
 

Socratus O' Pericles

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"Would be"?

You'll find that places like DLR and and other eastern and central parts of south County Dublin have a fair few home-grown unionists of varying hues already.

Seriously, I know you probably mean "moderate unionists" from the north. Give me one of them any day over a recently-converted neo-unionist zealot from south County Dublin any day.
I've rarely enough met them .....then I suppose I wouldn't..........MMOC probably has 'em all bagged down in Sadycove:p
 

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I have said before that I look forward to that time when Ireland is a confederacy, with 1m unionists from Northern Ireland (and 1m unionist-minded southerners)...
 

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I've rarely enough met them .....then I suppose I wouldn't..........MMOC probably has 'em all bagged down in Sadycove:p
She's a pleasant enough woman (was my kids' school principal), though how a school principal was in the PDs is beyond me. The state system was woefully underfunded, and she was looking for greater tax cuts. I suppose 'her' school was lavishly funded by multiple cake sales by stay at home yummie mummies.

She was smart enough to jump from the PD ship onto the FG deck in the nick of time. Opportunism, a great knack, especially in our system.
 

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didn't a sinn fein candidate get 4% in the 2002 general election, even if they had run a candidate in the 2011 election he/she would have got 2-2.5% and probably stopped boyd barrett from getting elected, bacik maybe would have got in instead of rbb or hanafin.
 

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Hey, Boyd Barret only got a seat in the last election because SF didn`t run a candidate in DL.

I wonder if he knows, or even cares about the SF votes that got him over the line?

I do know that SF are finding it hard to run a candidate in DL with any local credibility.
 

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