Noirín O'Sullivan is gone.

darkhorse

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She was definitely promoted because she was a woman. However, they'd have put any of their yes men in charge. They happened to find this particular unpleasant woman to put forward because she was one of them.
Well whatever
But she had almost no control over the organisation she was responsible for
A token leader - appointed purely because of her gender
 


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She should have never accepted the posting - knowing she would never have control over it
Come on, do you think people like O Sullivan don't know what they're doing? She promoted her husband while in office and her offspring -the one taking photos with that Paul Williams chap of the girl whose complaint is the cause of Maurice McCabe and his family's pain and suffering is in the Garda reserve. These people don't have morals, they are Ireland's answer to the Stasi. And its balls deep in this country, this type of nepotism and wink wink nod nod culture. It does not do us any good.
 

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What is this new job anyway?
Sounds totally made up and not credible.
Who will be paying her , what will she be doing? Why will she be doing it?
Yeah , shes a free citizen , but screw that , she has info and contacts in low places.
 

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What is this new job anyway?
Sounds totally made up and not credible.
Who will be paying her , what will she be doing? Why will she be doing it?
Yeah , shes a free citizen , but screw that , she has info and contacts in low places.
Hire a cop to talk to cops. No matter how iffy. I'd definitely keep an eye out for any sign of the Irish Dept of Justice suddenly coming up with funding for the organisation she has joined.

I doubt she has been employed because of her career record and any faint check of her success in policing leadership roles would reveal link after link in google that really should put an interview panel off a shortlist including Ms O'Sullivan.
 

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Not that it will alter any entrenched positions or anything, but it's worth pointing out that a very serious allegation against O'Sullivan has now been withdrawn.


A good illustration of why it's important not to accept such allegations at face value but to await judgement until they're properly examined.
 

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In a letter to the tribunal, Gda Keogh’s lawyers said the allegation was "virtually impossible to prove" and would be a waste of the tribunal’s time.
What has changed? What was the point in making such an allegation in the first place, if it was impossible to prove?
 

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What has changed? What was the point in making such an allegation in the first place, if it was impossible to prove?
What changed is that people have lost interest, so the establishment can get back to business as usual.

This would have been unacceptable 12 months ago when McCabe was a national hero, now the fickle media and distracted citizens have "moved on" - Brexit is a perfect tarpaulin to throw over a bunch of unpalatable news items.
 

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What changed is that people have lost interest, so the establishment can get back to business as usual.

This would have been unacceptable 12 months ago when McCabe was a national hero, now the fickle media and distracted citizens have "moved on" - Brexit is a perfect tarpaulin to throw over a bunch of unpalatable news items.
I don't buy that. If you make such an allegation against someone, you should follow it through, unless the aim is just to get them removed from their job ...

If it was the case that the allegation was never provable, and not even worth investigating then it shouldn't have been the subject of a tribunal. Otherwise it just looks like a politically motivated witchhunt.
 

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It is a well used technique. Just slow every response down to glacial level. And use the 24hrs news cycle as a distractor for months/years. This allows the miscreants to only feature on page 7 in a small column rather than front page.

Successive Irish governments have used that system for many decades. There's even an unofficial name for the policy- 'Delay 'till they die'.

Usually used where a senior politician has fairly obviously had their hand in the public cookie jar, where there is sexual abuse of minors involved in the case of the former 'pillars of the commnunity' in priests, institution visiting committees and so on.

Ireland is such a small incestuous place with utterly incestuous politics and legal systems that it is always regarded as a 'go to' policy where any developments in terms of scandal can't be forecast in terms of where the mess will land.
 

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Not that it will alter any entrenched positions or anything, but it's worth pointing out that a very serious allegation against O'Sullivan has now been withdrawn.


A good illustration of why it's important not to accept such allegations at face value but to await judgement until they're properly examined.
O'Sullivan like Shatter and Fitzgerald hounded from her job by unfounded allegations hyped up by an irresponsible media.
 

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It's not about sympathy , it's about fairness
I wouldn't be fans of Roger Scruton or Pat Carey but what the media did to them was just wrong.
However else history remembers Fitzgerald and Shatter it won't be as exemplars of fairness.

Shatter's treatment of Oliver Connolly was shameful and Fitzgerald didn't lift a finger in support of Shatter when his turn came to be shafted.

As for the media, sporadic accuracy is as much as you can reasonably expect. Truth, honesty, decency and fairess are alien concepts to them.
 

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Wasn't there something about money being unaccounted for?
There was money misappropriated in Templemore, John Barratt said he told O Sullivan about it and spent an hour going through it, the media of course treated him as a honest man trying to do the right thing, but subsequently in the disclosure Tribunal Barrett turned out to be unreliable and that's being charitable. Hence media silence
 

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There was money misappropriated in Templemore, John Barratt said he told O Sullivan about it and spent an hour going through it, the media of course treated him as a honest man trying to do the right thing, but subsequently in the disclosure Tribunal Barrett turned out to be unreliable and that's being charitable. Hence media silence
Does anyone know what happened to the money?
Who was in charge there when the money was misappropriated?
Are you suggesting that Barrett was somehow responsible?
 


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