NonMuslim countries - The source of terrorism

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In this topic, I am going to share informations-comments especially about Western countries and their ties with terror organizations. This is gonna be a good archive. I will always edit-update the first post (this one) when a new information-comment is needed to be added. I will take care of any information-comment posted by other users, as long as its logical. You dont have to be agree with this topic, you can post information-comments that proves/supports just the opposite of this topic, I will also add it as long as its logical. Informations with link of the source would be much more valuable and taken seriously. One of the main purposes of this topic is to help people not to forget.


ISIS


What they claim ?

- They claim to create a state that ruled according to "Islamic" rules.

- To achieve their purposes, they attack many countries all over the World. This is logically nonsense. Why would a terror organization who claims to create a state, attacks many countries and creates a lot of enemies against itself ?

How do they move ?

- They first attacked Mosul and seized high amount of weapon from Iraq Army. Despite US and Britain was given information months ago that they are preparing for an attack. US and Britain who invades Iraq turned a blind eye for strengthening of ISIS. Appearently it was a planned operation. The siege of Mosul was lasted for days and US nor Britain did nothing. The terrorists seized high amount of money and gold from Iraqi Banks.

- After they seized Mosul under the supervision of US-Britain, then they attacked another city Salahaddin.

- They are expanding their borders, attacking a new point every day, surrounding cities or towns, clashing for days. They could easily be destroyed by coalition airforces but its not done. They are allowed to expand their borders.

- They are moving on Syria which is mostly a flat area. They could easily be detected by Airforces, unmanned air vehicles and satellites but they are not, they are moving as they wish, because they are allowed to move.

In the videos below, US shot pro-Assad forces approaching a town where US soldiers are located. The same is not done against ISIS. Western countries are just wathing what is happening and guiding them as they wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL9wuzZ9TB0


How do they receive arms ?

- They are in need huge amount of weapon and ammo and they have to receive it from somewhere and someones. They cant do it without being caught to Syrian Airforces or coalition airforces. So they are allowed to do it.


How do they make money ?

- They are selling oil. Oil facilities in Syria and Iraq are located in some certain points. These facilities are not destroyed by coalition or Syrian Army. ISIS is allowed to sell oil. It also can be easily detected that whom they are trading with but its not detected too. The US-led coalition dont want to do that.



Terrorism under the pretext of figthing ISIS terrorism

US and terrorists groups supported by US makes agreement with ISIS terrorists to leave Raqqa city, after pretending like they are figthing each other. Russia shots terrorists leaving city.

Russian bombers kill 80 ISIS fighters fleeing from Raqqa in Syria | Daily Star


Another war crime by US. Despite ISIS terrorists leave Raqqa they keep shooting the city with banned weapons such as phosphor bomb.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/09/u-s-led-forces-appear-to-be-using-white-phosphorous-in-populated-areas-in-iraq-and-syria/?utm_term=.149122cf477d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQdx8r1o8BQ

The World media keeps making fake clash news to heroize US backed terror groups and try to create excuses to invasion of Syrian people's lands.

Some fake clash news:

IS conflict: US sends Marines to support Raqqa assault - BBC News

US-backed forces clash with IS group in battle for Raqqa - France 24

https://www.rferl.org/a/syria-us-backed-forces-raqqa-take-territory/28538549.html
 
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They are selling oil and oil facilities in Syria and Iraq are located in some certain points. These facilities are not destroyed by coalition or Syrian Army. ISIS is allowed to sell oil. It also can be easily detected that whom they are trading with but its not detected too. The coalition under the leadership of US dont want to do that.
ISIS is part of the foreign policy of the US, always has been and Israel has never bombed it and has issued statements declaring 'neutrality' on ISIS. Saudi is the source of the ideology ISIS uses, it is useful to join the dots.

The US managed to weaponise Islamic extremism and turn it on their enemies. One of their enemies is Western liberal democratic values and that is why we must never surrender even a fragment of our political capital or our liberties in a media/right wing driven reaction to what the Islamists do in Europe.

Would we have been safer, happier and better off if May's predecessors and the US Govt and France, Saudi and Israel and others had not declared jihad against the secular strongmen of the Middle East? Of course would have been.
 

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Aleksandr?

 

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I am 16 years old
I would advice you guys to examine your relations with US when a terror attack happens.
Western countries should get out of ME and Africa immediately...

... you need an excuse to invade Muslim countries and steal our properties :lol:
I dont think Ireland as separate from other Western countries. You are all the same.
Nope I will economically seize Ireland first :rolleyes:
I dont think they are radical, maybe they have radical opinions but they dont act radical. I talked to them before and they were not agressive, even some of them said that I am so cute :rolleyes: hh
LoL its funny to blame anything on Muslims :lol: You are much more criminal people than any Muslim population. If we put the statistics on the table, you will see that. A Muslim cannot be a criminal.

[video=youtube;1OkwP47WYHQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OkwP47WYHQ[/video]
 

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The US, UK and Israel are the three biggest non-Muslim supporters of terror in the world.
Well yes. According to Noam Chomsky anyway, and sure Bin Laden formalised it in his 1996 and subsequent fatwa.

Bin Laden's, 1996 fatwa - "Declaration of War against the Americans":

".. It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had suffered
from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the ZionistCrusaders
alliance and their collaborators
; to the extent that the Muslims
blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the hands of the
enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq. The horrifying
pictures of the massacre of Qana, in Lebanon are still fresh in our
memory. Massacres in Tajakestan, Burma, Cashmere, Assam,
Philippine, Fatani, Ogadin, Somalia, Erithria, Chechnia and in BosniaHerzegovina
took place, massacres that send shivers in the body and
shake the conscience. All of this and the world watch and hear, and not
only didn't respond to these atrocities, but also with a clear conspiracy
between the USA and its' allies
and under the cover of the iniquitous
United Nations, the dispossessed people were even prevented from
obtaining arms to defend themselves.
The people of Islam awakened and realised that they are the main target
for the aggression of the Zionist-Crusaders alliance. All false claims and
propaganda about "Human Rights" were hammered down and exposed
by the massacres that took place against the Muslims in every part of the
world..."



EDIT - Note there are plenty of thoughtful people in the Arab world who strongly disagree with the malcontent and unstable hordes from the West like yourself, and especially with the child-like latent Muslim radicals like Farah above. e.g. Here's another.
 

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Yeah roc_ of course Zionist influence in the United States didn't push for the incredibly destructive invasion of Iraq which brutalized the population, whipped up sectarian and tribal divisions among it which allowed ISIL to take place. Nor has Zionist influence anything to do with Western backing of the Jihadists in Syria. The Yanks and the Zionists are wholly innocent and anyone who thinks otherwise is some conspiracy theorist flake in a dingy bed sit jealous of superior Jewish family values and intelligence or something.
 

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Yeah roc_ of course Zionist influence in the United States didn't push for the incredibly destructive invasion of Iraq which brutalized the population, whipped up sectarian and tribal divisions among it which allowed ISIL to take place. Nor has Zionist influence anything to do with Western backing of the Jihadists in Syria. The Yanks and the Zionists are wholly innocent and anyone who thinks otherwise is some conspiracy theorist flake in a dingy bed sit jealous of superior Jewish family values and intelligence or something.






:roll:
 

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This whole demanding that the Goyim either stand 100 per cent behind what the leadership of the Jewish community consider Jewish interests and see all Jews outside those considered traitors (what is the Yiddish for Lundy?) by such as yourself as pure as the driven snow and if they refuse to do so labelling them "Anti-Semites" and the next Hitler or whoever is a bit childish do you not think when looked at objectively?
 

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PS. The above images are from 2001 (just a few weeks before 9/11, during the Durban conference). But they are not new. Here's similar from the Nazi era.



Same sh1t, different day. - The big bad "imperialists" and the "Jews". As pathetic as it is predictable. :roll:
 

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Same sh1t, different day. - The big bad "imperialists" and the "Jews". As pathetic as it is predictable. :roll:
Oh stop it would you- yeah the Sunni Jihadists have their own agency and need to be dealt with. However we also have to examine in the root causes. It's like in Ulster the Loyalist Paramilitaries have to be dealt with but there is no point in dealing with them unless you are prepared to take on Orangism as a whole and the wider influence of Anglosphere Freemasonry of which it is a part.
 

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Yeah roc_ of course Zionist influence in the United States didn't push for the incredibly destructive invasion of Iraq which brutalized the population, whipped up sectarian and tribal divisions among it which allowed ISIL to take place. Nor has Zionist influence anything to do with Western backing of the Jihadists in Syria. The Yanks and the Zionists are wholly innocent and anyone who thinks otherwise is some conspiracy theorist flake in a dingy bed sit jealous of superior Jewish family values and intelligence or something.
You realise that Bin Laden's 1996 fatwa I posted above which contains all of the shibboleths you are so fond of regurgitating predated all of the above?

Never mind your interpretation of subsequent events, and how the mechanics of "blame" have been devised.
 

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The US, UK and Israel are the three biggest non-Muslim supporters of terror in the world.
Load of parochial bollocks really. Look at the dark corners of the world, central and south america, central Africa, India, south east asia... And I'm not sure how France gets a pass if the UK is included.
 

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Oh stop it would you- yeah the Sunni Jihadists have their own agency and need to be dealt with. However we also have to examine in the root causes. It's like in Ulster the Loyalist Paramilitaries have to be dealt with but there is no point in dealing with them unless you are prepared to take on Orangism as a whole and the wider influence of Anglosphere Freemasonry of which it is a part.
Indeed. I agree.

[video=youtube;0AKhwWv7FVs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AKhwWv7FVs[/video]


I would sat that the professor hits the nail on the head with regard the much broader phenomenon.
 

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You realise that Bin Laden's 1996 fatwa I posted above which contains all of the shibboleths you are so fond of regurgitating predated all of the above?

Never mind your interpretation of subsequent events, and how the mechanics of "blame" have been devised.
He acted as a proxy for US Imperialism in Afghanistan. And given the massive role he and his mates played in bringing down the Soviet Union which naturally they took almost sole credit for they believed that they could easily take out the United States as well. His problem with the US was it having bases in Saudi Arabia which he felt was polluting "sacred soil".
 

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Oh stop it would you- yeah the Sunni Jihadists have their own agency and need to be dealt with. However we also have to examine in the root causes. It's like in Ulster the Loyalist Paramilitaries have to be dealt with but there is no point in dealing with them unless you are prepared to take on Orangism as a whole and the wider influence of Anglosphere Freemasonry of which it is a part.
The world is traumatised by recurring wars for zion
 

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Indeed. I agree.

[video=youtube;0AKhwWv7FVs]


I would sat that the professor hits the nail on the head with regard the much broader phenomenon.[/video]
[video=youtube;0AKhwWv7FVs]

Terrorism has multiple causes where ever it arises- you cannot have a one size fits all approach to the phenomena and claim that the Years of Lead in Italy were basically the same thing as the Troubles in Ulster and the "Propaganda by the Deed" Anarchists of the late 19 th century. Don't most Zionists believe that the what is driving Palestinian anti-colonial violence is that the Palestinians have to much hope?[/video]
 

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ISIS is part of the foreign policy of the US, always has been and Israel has never bombed it and has issued statements declaring 'neutrality' on ISIS. Saudi is the source of the ideology ISIS uses, it is useful to join the dots.

The US managed to weaponise Islamic extremism and turn it on their enemies. One of their enemies is Western liberal democratic values and that is why we must never surrender even a fragment of our political capital or our liberties in a media/right wing driven reaction to what the Islamists do in Europe.

Would we have been safer, happier and better off if May's predecessors and the US Govt and France, Saudi and Israel and others had not declared jihad against the secular strongmen of the Middle East? Of course would have been.
Do bird brained conspiracy nuts like you ever read the shyte they post? Two seconds would have saved you oodles of embarrassment.
 

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Terrorism has multiple causes where ever it arises- you cannot have a one size fits all approach to the phenomena and claim that the Years of Lead in Italy were basically the same thing as the Troubles in Ulster and the "Propaganda by the Deed" Anarchists of the late 19 th century. Don't most Zionists believe that the what is driving Palestinian anti-colonial violence is that the Palestinians have to much hope?
I would say the real roots of Palestinian violence are far away from some "anti-colonial" reaction. To take a brief snapshot.


[video=youtube;X38JLOks8Ho]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38JLOks8Ho[/video]


But while the ideological drivers may differ in the cases you mention, there is a common thread running through them all, and I would say the professor in the video above nails what that common thread is.


EDIT A significant element of right wing zionism believes that a proper agreement with the Arabs is only realistically possible after they have lost any real hope of driving them out of the region, of annihilating Jewish presence. - That is quite different to what you are spuriously trying to represent.
 
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al Qadri is looking more and more knowledgable and prescient, why the fup have the govt, AGS and G2 not been in contact with him, for that matter they should be keeping an eye on him, the scum he is warning us about are perfectly capable of killing him. We need people like him to be utilised and backed up, we need to deport those with any suspected fundamentalist link or someone a moderate fingers as a danger. If the law doesn't allow it we should change the law and if the ECHR disallows it we have to re-examine the laws as they are written. The world has changed radically and when utterly ruthless and unpredictable terrorists are the new threat we have to rewrite the laws to meet that threat.
 


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