Notre Dame Cathedral on fire



firefly123

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Where is Anne Hidalgo, Paris's Socialist mayor in this crisis? CNN saying fire brigade still not there. Why arent they droping water from helicopters as we did in an Irish forest fire a while back?
Because this is a cathedral not a forest.
You drop tons of water on to a burning building you collapse the building.
No doubt Donald will be on telling the Paris Fire Service what they did wrong.
 

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Because this is a cathedral not a forest.
You drop tons of water on to a burning building you collapse the building.
No doubt Donald will be on telling the Paris Fire Service what they did wrong.
There is a problem with the reach of the lances it seems. 30m for a building that is over 80m high. Same problem the London fire brigade had at Grenfell. Scary thought for people living in tower blocks.

Saved in what way?

Is the minister saying that the whole thing will burn to the ground?
It's even worse than that, the fire brigade is saying they'll only know in the next hour and a half if it can be stopped, and if it can't, the whole area of the Ile de la Cité is potentially at risk.
 

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All the 16 copper statues were removed for cleaning so at least they've been saved and can be put back in place when it's rebuilt.
 
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You know, I haven’t posted on this site for a long time, spending my time on another politics forum instead, and coming back here for a moment and seeing the above types of posts reaffirms that I am glad to stay away.
Thanks for dropping by to share you thoughts about yourself.

The good news is that no lives were lost in this fire, the likes of which occur daily in all sorts of buildings with more tragic consequences.

Shit happens, unfortunately.

It was a nice building, in fairness.

But try to maintain some perspective.
 

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You simply can't pump water practically over a certain height with mobile pumps.
Water supply isn't an issue here obviously as it's surrounded by the seine but the pumps and hoses work to a certain pressure so you are fighting gravity all the time. Also you don't necessarily want to drop tons of water onto it.
Once it goes through the roof on pretty much any building new or old it's game over.
 

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There is a problem with the reach of the lances it seems. 30m for a building that is over 80m high. Same problem the London fire brigade had at Grenfell. Scary for people living in tower blocks.


It's even worse than that, the fire brigade is saying they'll only know in the next hour and a half if it can be stopped, and if it can't, the whole area of the Ile de la Cité is potentially at risk.

Even the hospital?

How is the fire going to spread to the other buildings?
 

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All the 16 copper statues were removed for cleaning so at least they've been saved and can be put back in place when it's rebuilt.
Do you really think the whole thing will be rebuilt to resemble what it looked like pre-fire?
 

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I've been wondering if the Paris authorities had a plan to deal with disasters at the cathedral.

You'd think that big cities do have such things for important buildings.
 

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Even the most ardent Secularist, if they are anyway rational, can see that this is a tragedy.
Most secularist don’t condone such dramatic language and emotional attachment to inanimate objects.

Apparently it can be rebuilt so that’s all grand then.
 

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The culprit(s) must be punished in the most severe manner. This is not just an attack on Christianity, it's an attack on European culture.
What if it turns out to be just an accident on the renovation site?
 

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Terrible images of the fire and damage caused.
 

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Of Course. Cologne was rebuilt. Cathedrals have been rebuilt many times down the centuries.
The Cologne cathedral wasn't burned in the way that Notre Dame is being burned.

The damage to the Cologne cathedral was bad, but limited. It wasn't razed to the ground, and didn't have its insides completely burned.

The cost to repair Notre Dame will be massive, and I'm not sure that there is an appetite to spend so much money on restoration of it.
 


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