Now for the Seanad election

[QuizMaster]

Now that sen. Pearse Doherty has been elected to the Dail, a vacancy has arisen in the Seanad.
They can't just long finger it, after all there was the court ruling. I can't see Sinn Fein winning it.

 

[KingKane]

The electorate for that is just the current Oireachtas membership and there is a FF vacancy as it is that they've not filled.

 

[AddressTheNation]

Surely Sinn Fein have a proportion of the seats in the Seanad and can therefore fill the empty seat?

 

[Toland]

The electorate for that is just the current Oireachtas membership and there is a FF vacancy as it is that they've not filled.

Do the normal electorate of the Agricultural panel not count in bye-elections to the Seanad?

 

[QuizMaster]

No. For by-elections it's the Oireachtas only.
The Greens owe FF, after they gave the Greens a 3rd seat to Niall O'Brolchainn last year.

 

[neiphin]

No. For by-elections it's the Oireachtas only.
The Greens owe FF, after they gave the Greens a 3rd seat to Niall O'Brolchainn last year.

was that not the one the woman who went for europe, and lost he deposit
held before she resigned ?

 

[Toland]

No. For by-elections it's the Oireachtas only.
The Greens owe FF, after they gave the Greens a 3rd seat to Niall O'Brolchainn last year.

There's the small matter of the Climate Change Bill, though. Not to mention the unenacted ban on corporate donations.

Or are the above not legitimate factors?

 

[QuizMaster]

was that not the one the woman who went for europe, and lost he deposit
held before she resigned ?

No De Burca's seat went to Mark Deary.
This was a FF senator who died. The Greens got the seat.

 

[neiphin]

was it ff"s for the giving ?
does the party that held the seat not just co opt someone

 

[Dillon Country]

Now that sen. Pearse Doherty has been elected to the Dail, a vacancy has arisen in the Seanad.
They can't just long finger it, after all there was the court ruling. I can't see Sinn Fein winning it.

As I understand it, voting in the Seanad Bye Election is confined to members of the Dail and the Seanad. From past experience, FF & Greens have an agreement that they share vacancies between them and as FF got the last vacant seat (Sen Paschal Mooney) it would be the turn of the Greens to take the Doherty seat ! What will FF do this time?!!!

 

[QuizMaster]

It was sort of FF's for the giving.
Only the TDs and Senators vote. FF and the Greens had a majority. So in practice they could hand it to who they wanted.

 

[culmore]

Sf might use some semtex to get rid of the Seanad

 

[jayblue]

Fianna Fail will find someone to give the seanad seat to, no way this will be a green nominee, no doubt if they want to run some celebrity somewhere in the country they might give them a sho in this time

 

[QuizMaster]

I can see the arrangement breaking down.
Or maybe it will be dragged out to the end of the Dail, so it never happens.

 

[Toland]

I can see the arrangement breaking down.
Or maybe it will be dragged out to the end of the Dail, so it never happens.

It'll be a short drag.

 

[gijoe]

was it ff"s for the giving ?
does the party that held the seat not just co opt someone

There is no by-election in the Seanad if the vacancy is created by someone who was a Taoiseach's nominee, the Taoiseach just nominates a replacement. If the vacancy is either a panel of Universities seat there is a by-election. In the case of a panel seat, as Doherty's was, the electorate is only Oireachtas members.

 

[dicta]

Fianna Fail will elect some eejit cllr to an elevated position in the misguided hopes that he/she will be elected to Dail Eireann

 

[Traharter]

Fianna Fail will elect some eejit cllr to an elevated position in the misguided hopes that he/she will be elected to Dail Eireann

Packie Bonner needs a job after he was let go by the FAI today!!

 

[Toland]

Fianna Fail will elect some eejit cllr to an elevated position in the misguided hopes that he/she will be elected to Dail Eireann

There are no eejits like that anymore, are there?

I would have thought O'Domhnaill was the last one.

 

[Neutral]

It would be an FF appointment effectively, since they still form a majority of Oireachtas members.

But am I the only one who thinks it might backfire to appoint someone with an election so close by?

The public will hardly welcome the pay bill for an extra Senator!