Now this is Barking Mad! - PC sues for Discrimination - which shows PC just gets Madder!

Catalpast

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Its just not Fair!:cry:

WPC Kim-Louise Carter was awarded £15,000 after failing a fitness test which involved a 10-mile run, then carrying a dog over a course before running with it a further 100 yards.

Now 'Police forces must change the way they recruit dog handlers after a female officer won a landmark sex-discrimination case showing that the system was too “tough” for some women
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Police to review tests for dog handlers to avoid discrimination

Then recruit some Tougher Women!

She wants to be a Dog Handler BTW

- but its all a bit too much for her....

Cant see why she should get a special dispensation just because she is a woman....

Its fact of life that many of us would 'like' to follow particular career paths or specialise within the one we have

- and just might not have the skills set required to do it

Life's a Bitch

- get over it!:roll:
 


owedtojoy

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Its just not Fair!:cry:

WPC Kim-Louise Carter was awarded £15,000 after failing a fitness test which involved a 10-mile run, then carrying a dog over a course before running with it a further 100 yards.

Now 'Police forces must change the way they recruit dog handlers after a female officer won a landmark sex-discrimination case showing that the system was too “tough” for some women
.
Police to review tests for dog handlers to avoid discrimination

Then recruit some Tougher Women!

She wants to be a Dog Handler BTW

- but its all a bit too much for her....

Cant see why she should get a special dispensation just because she is a woman....

Its fact of life that many of us would 'like' to follow particular career paths or specialise within the one we have

- and just might not have the skills set required to do it

Life's a Bitch

- get over it!:roll:
Why do we have to be treated to the latest rubbishy anecdote from the Daily Mail or the Daily Torygraph?

We know their agenda, we know Cattlepest's agenda, so this is all a thundering bore, and a waste of site-space.

Zoo, along with most the thread Cattlepest starts.
 

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Its just not Fair!:cry:

WPC Kim-Louise Carter was awarded £15,000 after failing a fitness test which involved a 10-mile run, then carrying a dog over a course before running with it a further 100 yards.

Now 'Police forces must change the way they recruit dog handlers after a female officer won a landmark sex-discrimination case showing that the system was too “tough” for some women
.
Police to review tests for dog handlers to avoid discrimination

Then recruit some Tougher Women!

She wants to be a Dog Handler BTW

- but its all a bit too much for her....

Cant see why she should get a special dispensation just because she is a woman....

Its fact of life that many of us would 'like' to follow particular career paths or specialise within the one we have

- and just might not have the skills set required to do it

Life's a Bitch

- get over it!:roll:
Has your handler got over it, poor suffering sod.
 

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Why do we have to be treated to the latest rubbishy anecdote from the Daily Mail or the Daily Torygraph?

We know their agenda, we know Cattlepest's agenda, so this is all a thundering bore, and a waste of site-space.

Zoo, along with most the thread Cattlepest starts.
Yes. It's not Politics. It's not Irish. It's not even interesting. It belongs in the bin.
 

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Why do we have to be treated to the latest rubbishy anecdote from the Daily Mail or the Daily Torygraph?

We know their agenda, we know Cattlepest's agenda, so this is all a thundering bore, and a waste of site-space.

Zoo, along with most the thread Cattlepest starts.
What facts presented are you claiming to be untrue?
 

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This is ridiculous. When they are treated equal, they complain of discrimination. So what is it they want?
 

Catalpast

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I see no one jumping to this young lady's defense

- how unchivalrous of you .....:D
 

Catalpast

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Why do we have to be treated to the latest rubbishy anecdote from the Daily Mail or the Daily Torygraph?

We know their agenda, we know Cattlepest's agenda, so this is all a thundering bore, and a waste of site-space.

Zoo, along with most the thread Cattlepest starts.
You are not required to read anyone's posts OJ

- you are perfectly free to ignore them

Though maybe you would just like to see an echo chamber here...?
 

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The judge did say that the test must be either modified or its necessity justified.
The latter is reasonable. The former is only "fair" if the physical demands are reduced for men as well.
 

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it matters, just wait until you need to rescued from a fire by a 5 ft nothing tub of lard all because of muh equality.
 

Dame_Enda

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The UK is under a feminist govt at the moment. I support equality but I dont think physical strength can just be ignored when dealing with policing.
 

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The judge did say that the test must be either modified or its necessity justified.
The latter is reasonable. The former is only "fair" if the physical demands are reduced for men as well.
Justification was actually given and I don't see how it could be considered unreasonable. I tried to copy the relevant paragraph but the site requires me to register or log in, which I'm not prepared to do, sorry. But reference is made to the physical demands of the job requiring a high degree of physical fitness. Reducing the demands of the test would put officers lives in danger.
 

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If the dog can weigh up to X kg and could need to be carried Y km, then I don't see how being able to carry the dog that weighs X kg Y km isn't an essential part of the job.
 
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This is absolutely bananas the exact same standards should be set whatever sex you are if you're not up to it then you're not up to it I'm afraid why lower standards to accommodate others that will do you no good in an emergency now will it.
 

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Yes. It's not Politics. It's not Irish. It's not even interesting. It belongs in the bin.
If it happens over there it won't be long before it starts to happen here.
 

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This is ridiculous. When they are treated equal, they complain of discrimination. So what is it they want?
Special treatment which even means lowering standards to suit them which is outrageous the same sort of physical tests should apply to everyone who wishes to be a member of the police force if they're not up to it then don't join up simple special treatment shouldn't come in to it when it come to things like being in the police the wellbeing of citizens will be at stake otherwise if someone isn't physically capable of doing the job.
 

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Special treatment which even means lowering standards to suit them which is outrageous the same sort of physical tests should apply to everyone who wishes to be a member of the police force if they're not up to it then don't join up simple special treatment shouldn't come in to it when it come to things like being in the police the wellbeing of citizens will be at stake otherwise if someone isn't physically capable of doing the job.
It would be interesting to read the detail of the judge's finding.
On reading the Telegraph report it appears that different standards are to be imposed for men and women.

If a man meets the female standard but not the male standard for appointment and is rejected for that reason then in my view an injustice has been done.

I expect the case was lost because objective criteria were not offered for the 10 mile run etc.
 

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The poor dog. It must have been very scared being carried by this woman who was not physically up to it. Hopefully some animal loving legal eagle will take a case against that police force for putting the dog in that dreadful situation?

In Michael Clifford's book about Maurice McCabe he reveals that McCabe failed twice to get into the gardai (1) he was 1/8" too short and (2) he failed the fitness test. He did not sue the gardai. He did stretching exercises and made the required 5' 9" and he addressed his fitness issues. He got in next time. Why could this lady copy not join a gym etc and take the test again when she felt up to standard?
 

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Men can't complain. We continue to suffer and put up with the most appalling, vicious, and aggressive female management.
If we're not prepared to organise and take action against (little blonde whore) HR and make them justify their appointments then we deserve everything we get.

It's like the Indians Shi*tting, ars*e naked, from a great height on mankind.
 


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