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Oil spill disaster is now 'out of control'


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The oil is gushing from BP's sunken Deepwater Horizon rig at 25,000 barrels a day and could reach 50,000 barrels a day, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Earlier estimates had put the leak at 5,000 barrels a day.

Professor Ian MacDonald, an ocean specialist at Florida State University, said the new estimate suggested that the leak had already spread 9 million gallons of heavy crude oil across the Gulf. This compares with 11 million that leaked from the Exxon Valdez tanker when it hit a reef off Alaska in 1989.

Oil spill disaster is now 'out of control' - Times Online

this will probably dwarf Exxon Valdez

poor 'ol New Orleans and surrounding area just can't catch a break
 


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YouTube - US oil spill explained

good video explaining the leak and what what engineers are facing in trying to stem the flow of oil.


also some of the survivors of the initial fire are sueing Halliburton charging that work carried out prior to the explosion was improperly executed according to this report.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUH0Da9-Zns&playnext_from=TL&videos=xHWh45u4CFI&playnext=2"]YouTube- Fears grow over oil spill disaster[/nomedia]
 
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YouTube - US oil spill explained

good video explaining the leak and what what engineers are facing in trying to stem the flow of oil.
Thanks for the link. It demonstrates it very well.

This is awful what is happening. It would appear that a lot of work is being done to either contain or disperse the oil.

However, what exactly is being done at the well itself??? In all the coverage I have seen, I haven't seen one report that talks about this work.
 

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Thanks for the link. It demonstrates it very well.

This is awful what is happening. It would appear that a lot of work is being done to either contain or disperse the oil.

However, what exactly is being done at the well itself??? In all the coverage I have seen, I haven't seen one report that talks about this work.
They have to dig a hole three & half miles down to channel off the leak

- trouble is that will take about three months!:eek:
 

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why can't they just sink a couple hundred tonnes of concrete to seal the whole thing off - well head, riser - the lot
 

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why can't they just sink a couple hundred tonnes of concrete to seal the whole thing off - oil head, riser - the lot
I guess if it were that simple, they would have done so by now. Unfortunately, the oil is coming out with so much pressure that it would just blow away the concrete before it had time to set. :-x

I was also rather surprised at President Obama's statement that BP will have to pay the full cost of the damage. I understand his sentiments, but at the end of the day it is a court of law that will decide what compensation is to be paid and by whom.:roll:
 

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I guess if it were that simple, they would have done so by now. Unfortunately, the oil is coming out with so much pressure that it would just blow away the concrete before it had time to set. :-x

I was also rather surprised at President Obama's statement that BP will have to pay the full cost of the damage. I understand his sentiments, but at the end of the day it is a court of law that will decide what compensation is to be paid and by whom.:roll:
well i meant concrete that was already well set (and probably steel reinforced) - but like you said i'm sure they would've done it if possible
 

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I guess if it were that simple, they would have done so by now. Unfortunately, the oil is coming out with so much pressure that it would just blow away the concrete before it had time to set. :-x

I was also rather surprised at President Obama's statement that BP will have to pay the full cost of the damage. I understand his sentiments, but at the end of the day it is a court of law that will decide what compensation is to be paid and by whom.:roll:
Obama sacked a CEO of a corporation live on TV (former GM CEO, who was woeful). No US president did that before.
Now he dictates that BP pay the costs.

These are the similar actions theat dictators in 1930s Europe started off with.
 

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The problem with concrete is its strength depends on the uniformity of the set. It is quite a challenge to get set at that level. The time for the installation of a new rig would actually depend mostly on the well head concrete setting assuming a spare rig was available.

To cover a large pipe over a large area... much more time required.
 
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Commercial fishing in that area has been closed down.

Just now reported on RTE.

Peoples' livelihoods are at stake.....NEVERMIND the impact on wildlife.......God, this is absolutely awful.
 

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Obama sacked a CEO of a corporation live on TV (former GM CEO, who was woeful). No US president did that before.
Now he dictates that BP pay the costs.

These are the similar actions theat dictators in 1930s Europe started off with.
Er yes imagine that. Making it clear that BP will be paying for a disaster caused directly by it instead of the taxpayer. It's a wonder commentators with less genius than yourself have not noticed the close parallels with European dictators.
 

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Er yes imagine that. Making it clear that BP will be paying for a disaster caused directly by it instead of the taxpayer. It's a wonder commentators with less genius than yourself have not noticed the close parallels with European dictators.
But it was Halliburton that made a liathroidi of the job it was given, but I suppose a Bush in time ......
 

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Given that the right agitated for Roberts to get the Supreme Court seat to agitate against abortion and suchlike whacknut causes it serves them right that the first case he deliberated on was the Exxon Valdez and he found for the owners ! Idiots. It'll now be hard to overturn precedence.
 

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Er yes imagine that. Making it clear that BP will be paying for a disaster caused directly by it instead of the taxpayer. It's a wonder commentators with less genius than yourself have not noticed the close parallels with European dictators.
Er? Is that a Feargach induced contagion expression on this forum?

What commentators are you talking about? The mainstream media? We no longer have a 4th estate, its not a question of genius as much as your intellectual snobbery supply chained la la land would like to impress upon us. Its a the reality of not biting the hand that feeds you.

Of course the real world of logic and praxeology is lost within your cult, so its a deadweight loss trying to illustrate this to you.
 
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Reading elsewhere it appears that its going to be impossible to fix this.

The BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink.

Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it, packing 70,000 pounds per square inch of pressure behind it.
It's going to stop when it's close to empty. Nothing else is going to work.


Oreo Livermore Happy now?
 
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Deepwater Horizon: Radio interview with survivor

Mark Levin

the tremendous pressures involved is wot done it
 

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The BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink.

Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it, packing 70,000 pounds per square inch of pressure behind it.

It's going to stop when it's close to empty. Nothing else is going to work.
Can a mod take this poster to task.

He is repeating word for word what I have just read elsewhere



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