Old Irish Naming Conventions

bagel

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I've never come across this before. Its a practice that appears to have died out in Ireland. Is it another part of our history that has been forgotten?

A Note on Old Irish Naming Conventions
The following will set out the naming conventions that were frequently used in the 1800s when granting first names to children. Please bear in mind that these conventions were not adhered to rigorously, but they can be a very useful guide.

For sons:
The first son was named after the father's father.
The second son was named after the mother's father.
The third son was named after the father.
The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother.
The fifth son was named after the mother's eldest brother.

For daughters:
The first daughter was named after the mother's mother.
The second daughter was named after the father's mother.
The third daughter was named after the mother.
The fourth daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister.
The fifth daughter was named after the father's eldest sister.
 


Cellachán Chaisil

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Heard something similar, but it wouldn't go very far back.
 

Dearghoul

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I like the connemara informal naming system for men.

'Paddy Cole Maidhc'

Your name, your fathers, your grandfathers.

Wouldn't work so well for the first or third son, as people would be inclined to drop one of the identical names, thereby taking the music out of it.
 

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[video=youtube;zB_nhLty7f8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_nhLty7f8[/video]
Not dead yet. Lots more examples but it can be difficult when they're calling out a distant cousin
 

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In my family it was/is 'middle' names, i.e my great grandfather, grandfather, dad, me and one son and his son all have the same middle name...
 

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I've never come across this before. Its a practice that appears to have died out in Ireland. Is it another part of our history that has been forgotten?

A Note on Old Irish Naming Conventions
The following will set out the naming conventions that were frequently used in the 1800s when granting first names to children. Please bear in mind that these conventions were not adhered to rigorously, but they can be a very useful guide.

For sons:
The first son was named after the father's father.
The second son was named after the mother's father.
The third son was named after the father.
The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother.
The fifth son was named after the mother's eldest brother.

For daughters:
The first daughter was named after the mother's mother.
The second daughter was named after the father's mother.
The third daughter was named after the mother.
The fourth daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister.
The fifth daughter was named after the father's eldest sister.
Have encountered this a number of times with people still living and carrying on a practice over the generations.
 
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I've never come across this before. Its a practice that appears to have died out in Ireland. Is it another part of our history that has been forgotten?

A Note on Old Irish Naming Conventions
The following will set out the naming conventions that were frequently used in the 1800s when granting first names to children. Please bear in mind that these conventions were not adhered to rigorously, but they can be a very useful guide.

For sons:
The first son was named after the father's father.
The second son was named after the mother's father.
The third son was named after the father.
The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother.
The fifth son was named after the mother's eldest brother.

For daughters:
The first daughter was named after the mother's mother.
The second daughter was named after the father's mother.
The third daughter was named after the mother.
The fourth daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister.
The fifth daughter was named after the father's eldest sister.
In your part of the world seems like there's a compulsory Jarlath in every family. ;)
 

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I've never come across this before. Its a practice that appears to have died out in Ireland. Is it another part of our history that has been forgotten?

A Note on Old Irish Naming Conventions
The following will set out the naming conventions that were frequently used in the 1800s when granting first names to children. Please bear in mind that these conventions were not adhered to rigorously, but they can be a very useful guide.

For sons:
The first son was named after the father's father.
The second son was named after the mother's father.
The third son was named after the father.
The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother.
The fifth son was named after the mother's eldest brother.

For daughters:
The first daughter was named after the mother's mother.
The second daughter was named after the father's mother.
The third daughter was named after the mother.
The fourth daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister.
The fifth daughter was named after the father's eldest sister.
Most of those mulchies are dead and gone by now
Whats the problem?
 

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George Foreman had the right idea.
 


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