One quarter of Irish children can't kick a football properly

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The unprecedented level of fires in Australia and in Brazil's rain forests and Siberian forests should be ignored then?
That shouldn't be loaded on to children.
Children should be prepared for adulthood with the skills necessary for coping and survival. And yes, being able to kick a ball is a survival skill because of all that goes with it.
The animals know that play is necessary for survival. When did we become so smart that we lost sight of that priority?

The leftist bullshit that has infiltrated our society is destroying our children.
 


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Parents are now faced with dropping their children at childminders, where they stay indoors for maybe 12 hours, before being collected and brought home to bed. Many of the parents are exhausted just trying to keep up with putting a roof over the heads of the children...in this context,it is more challenging to raise well rounded children. Most parents try to be the best for their children that they can, so I think it would be more instructive for us to look at what is going on in wider society than in family units.

Of course, the real comparison between now and then is not to do with motor skills, but to compare how many children people are having now compared to historically. That's the real story...small families because of economic pressures. The never-borns will never throw or catch or run.

And that's not an abortion point, before somebody tries to twist my point!
That's true of very young children but there is nothing stopping children getting a bus and walking, or just walking to school in the cities. They can also walk to football or other sports. And there is also the weekends for most families.
 

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That's true of very young children but there is nothing stopping children getting a bus and walking, or just walking to school in the cities. They can also walk to football or other sports. And there is also the weekends for most families.
But there is plenty stopping them...crap public transport in some cases being one. Generally our public facilities are very poor...we also have a modern trend of houses with tiny gardens. In general doing the right thing has become quite challenging for parents in Ireland...I speak as someone fortunate enough to be able to have our children cared for by at least one parent everyday...I guess I am just defending others!
 

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If parents are exhausted by the cost of living, that is down to housing cost because food and clothing take only a small share of income compared to past generations. The obvious solution is to move to cities where housing is cheap, Waterford, Sligo, Limerick etc. Commuting time is also far less in those cities than in Dublin which is one of the worst in Europe for traffic congestion.
And their job in Dublin, Pat?
 

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What I have picked up from this thread is that there are still people who think gay people and women cannot play football.

Jesus wept.
 

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Meh, I never could as a child and I was forced to do PE and games.

All this messing aroud with balls seems very unncessary to me.
 

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When you factor in girls and the gay kids you would think it would be a lot more.
You'd have to factor out the gay girls. Brilliant at sport are the ould lesbians.
 

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That shouldn't be loaded on to children.
Children should be prepared for adulthood with the skills necessary for coping and survival. And yes, being able to kick a ball is a survival skill because of all that goes with it.
The animals know that play is necessary for survival. When did we become so smart that we lost sight of that priority?

The leftist bullshit that has infiltrated our society is destroying our children.
Leftists are open to major investments in sports facilities in schools and playgrounds. Our present government wasn't arsed to sort out the rocketing insurance costs that affects recreational faciliyies.
 

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The problem is parents. You mentioned building sporting infrastructure. But that alone will not solve the problem. In any case there are fine GAA pitches all over the country already. And they are basically free for the children. So money and infrastructure are not really the problem. It's going to get worse, because those kids of today who are doing no sports are going to be obese too and the next generation will be even worse.
Indoor sports such as basketball,racquet sports and gyms might encourage more participation in the long Irish winter than outdoor team sports.
 

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That shouldn't be loaded on to children.
Children should be prepared for adulthood with the skills necessary for coping and survival. And yes, being able to kick a ball is a survival skill because of all that goes with it.
The animals know that play is necessary for survival. When did we become so smart that we lost sight of that priority?

The leftist bullshit that has infiltrated our society is destroying our children.
The left haven't starved sport of funding and sold off the playing pitches
 

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That's true of very young children but there is nothing stopping children getting a bus and walking, or just walking to school in the cities. They can also walk to football or other sports. And there is also the weekends for most families.
Walking is the most practical lifelong exercise for most people. But it should be fast and brisk walking for exercise value.
 

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Our boys started rugby at 5, and soccer at 7. That says more about us than them. But they play both and are physically active. This requires a lot of ferrying to matches and training and they have sport 3 times a week in school. Plus swimming and PE.

This is normal in our area. There was one slightly chubby kid in each year. Elder lad is in secondary now and there are some chunky lads around now.

If middle class parents have fat kids with no motor skills, that is on them. Working class parents have to overcome shitty shift work and poor facilities, but many do. It's just life in "hard mode". The dedication in working class areas to the local soccer teams for kids is brilliant. Makes you despise the FAI more.
 

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In addition to the linked article, a recent Newstalk Radio interview of health experts raised the alarm about the lack of development of children's motor skills from lack of exercise. The experts estimated that children need an hour of exercise a day, about double the requirement of adults for health and fitness. About one quarter of Irish children can't kick a ball or throw a ball properly. No doubt they will experience subpar health in adult life and a reduced life expectancy.
Parents,and to a lesser extent schools, are to blame for this. Parents who self indulgently assume the schools are providing exercise opportunities neglect sufficient exercise for their children due to time pressures from long commutes to work and other reasons. Many schools have tight schedules that allow for little exercise and the number of teachers volunteering to provide sports and exercise is insufficient. That suggests the government should fund exercise facilities where needed instead of postponing action indefinitely. The lowest cost facilities are likely to be gyms for PT where large numbers of children can exercise in close quarters in a limited space. Basketball courts also take up limited space.
A change in family lifestyle might also be considered to prioritise time spent with children. Instead of a long commute from a distant single family home in the country, maybe Irish families should emulate German families and live in apartments reasonably close to work. Or if they desperately want a single family house, maybe they should move to cities where houses are affordable and commutes are short, such as Limerick or Waterford.
Would bet they are mostly the kids of "Career women". who have replaced "Swingball" with x box and the like, as the latest **** off toy till I get home.
 

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Parents are now faced with dropping their children at childminders, where they stay indoors for maybe 12 hours, before being collected and brought home to bed. Many of the parents are exhausted just trying to keep up with putting a roof over the heads of the children...in this context,it is more challenging to raise well rounded children. Most parents try to be the best for their children that they can, so I think it would be more instructive for us to look at what is going on in wider society than in family units.

Of course, the real comparison between now and then is not to do with motor skills, but to compare how many children people are having now compared to historically. That's the real story...small families because of economic pressures. The never-borns will never throw or catch or run.

And that's not an abortion point, before somebody tries to twist my point!
Kids are not interested in fancy carpets or SUVs, they just need your time and attention.
 

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I think some of it is that schools are afraid of being sued by parents if the child gets a sports injury so they dont exercise them enough in PE class.
 

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I'm thinking of a young fella who says soccer. Great with his feet, but ask him to catch a ball and all he can do is slap it down.

Why would he need to catch the ball in a sport that is called FOOTball.

Do you expect him to be a goalkeeper?
 

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The problem is parents. You mentioned building sporting infrastructure. But that alone will not solve the problem. In any case there are fine GAA pitches all over the country already. And they are basically free for the children. So money and infrastructure are not really the problem. It's going to get worse, because those kids of today who are doing no sports are going to be obese too and the next generation will be even worse.
The problem is the Irish people.

Just as with the limited use of the Irish Gaelic language, most Irish people expect "somebody" to do something about this issue. The government is often expected to be this somebody.

Irish people need to understand that somebody else isn't going to do these things that they are responsible for themselves. If Irish people choose to not provide their children with a day-to-day environment that actually uses the Irish Gaelic language, or gets their children out to play sports, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.
 


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