One sided Neutrality

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So the Government is worried about Russians in our airspace.. the Public are worried about us military in Shannon.
and nobodies to bothered about Subs in the coastal waters water



After initially expressing reservations about getting involved in the UK's battle, Fianna Fáil last night backed the Government's move. The party's foreign affairs spokesman, Darragh O'Brien, said: "Our military neutrality should never be moral neutrality."

He told the Dáil Russia is becoming "more belligerent", noting on several occasions in recent years Russian jets have entered Irish airspace. He said Russia was "determined to advance its own dubious agenda" and "undermine European values and ideals".

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For a foreign military aircraft to land at an Irish airport or even to pass through Irish airspace, permission must be granted by the Minister for Foreign Affairs. In 2017 his department received 515 requests for landings by military aircraft at airports in Ireland. Of the 515 landing requests received, 1 was refused and 15 were cancelled. The vast majority of these (451) were for military aircraft landing at Shannon Airport.

Of the 451 military aircraft landings at Shannon in 2017, 402 were US military aircraft.

A small number of permits were issued to military aircraft from other countries as follows: Bahrain (1), Belgium (3), Canada (5), Egypt (3), France (17), Germany (3), Italy (5), Jordan (7), Palestine Authority (2), Switzerland (1), Ukraine (1), and UK (1).
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uclear submarines regularly pass within five miles of Dublin port, sometimes sinking Irish trawlers and crashing into illegally dumped nuclear barrels in the Irish sea. Nobody is doing anything about it. Noel McCarthy reports.
The United States bases ten of its thirty one 'Lafayette' and 'Benjamin Franklin' submarines at Holy Loch, on the Clyde estuary of Western Scotland. These submarines form a unit called 'Subron 14'. Their peace time function is to patrol under the North East Atlantic. Their mission is to incinerate Soviet cities and military and industrial targets, in time of war.

To fulfill this role each of the subbmarines carry 16 Poseidon missiles with a capability to unleash the equivalent of ten thousand Hiroshimas. To gain access to the Atlantic the subs must pass counties Antrim and Donegal to the North and the east coast of Leinster and Munster to the South.

According to British Admiralty chart 1141, the southerly route can bring nuclear subs up to five miles off Dublin port. The priority of the Clyde based submarines is to remain undeetected by the Soviets, who deploy surrface intelligence vessels and 'Whiskey' class diesel subs in an attempt to 'shadow' the NATO submarines, It is against this background of superrthreat wargames that the trawler sinkings have occured.

Britain maintains a modest contribbution to global destruction at the Faslane naval base
 


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But who are we neutral against?
 
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So the Government is worried about Russians in our airspace.. the Public are worried about us military in Shannon.
and nobodies to bothered about Subs in the coastal waters water



After initially expressing reservations about getting involved in the UK's battle, Fianna Fáil last night backed the Government's move. The party's foreign affairs spokesman, Darragh O'Brien, said: "Our military neutrality should never be moral neutrality."

He told the Dáil Russia is becoming "more belligerent", noting on several occasions in recent years Russian jets have entered Irish airspace. He said Russia was "determined to advance its own dubious agenda" and "undermine European values and ideals".

......
For a foreign military aircraft to land at an Irish airport or even to pass through Irish airspace, permission must be granted by the Minister for Foreign Affairs. In 2017 his department received 515 requests for landings by military aircraft at airports in Ireland. Of the 515 landing requests received, 1 was refused and 15 were cancelled. The vast majority of these (451) were for military aircraft landing at Shannon Airport.

Of the 451 military aircraft landings at Shannon in 2017, 402 were US military aircraft.

A small number of permits were issued to military aircraft from other countries as follows: Bahrain (1), Belgium (3), Canada (5), Egypt (3), France (17), Germany (3), Italy (5), Jordan (7), Palestine Authority (2), Switzerland (1), Ukraine (1), and UK (1).
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uclear submarines regularly pass within five miles of Dublin port, sometimes sinking Irish trawlers and crashing into illegally dumped nuclear barrels in the Irish sea. Nobody is doing anything about it. Noel McCarthy reports.
The United States bases ten of its thirty one 'Lafayette' and 'Benjamin Franklin' submarines at Holy Loch, on the Clyde estuary of Western Scotland. These submarines form a unit called 'Subron 14'. Their peace time function is to patrol under the North East Atlantic. Their mission is to incinerate Soviet cities and military and industrial targets, in time of war.

To fulfill this role each of the subbmarines carry 16 Poseidon missiles with a capability to unleash the equivalent of ten thousand Hiroshimas. To gain access to the Atlantic the subs must pass counties Antrim and Donegal to the North and the east coast of Leinster and Munster to the South.

According to British Admiralty chart 1141, the southerly route can bring nuclear subs up to five miles off Dublin port. The priority of the Clyde based submarines is to remain undeetected by the Soviets, who deploy surrface intelligence vessels and 'Whiskey' class diesel subs in an attempt to 'shadow' the NATO submarines, It is against this background of superrthreat wargames that the trawler sinkings have occured.

Britain maintains a modest contribbution to global destruction at the Faslane naval base
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Erm - what event or meeting are you bringing to our attention?
 

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So the Government is worried about Russians in our airspace.. the Public are worried about us military in Shannon.
and nobodies to bothered about Subs in the coastal waters water



After initially expressing reservations about getting involved in the UK's battle, Fianna Fáil last night backed the Government's move. The party's foreign affairs spokesman, Darragh O'Brien, said: "Our military neutrality should never be moral neutrality."

He told the Dáil Russia is becoming "more belligerent", noting on several occasions in recent years Russian jets have entered Irish airspace. He said Russia was "determined to advance its own dubious agenda" and "undermine European values and ideals".

......
For a foreign military aircraft to land at an Irish airport or even to pass through Irish airspace, permission must be granted by the Minister for Foreign Affairs. In 2017 his department received 515 requests for landings by military aircraft at airports in Ireland. Of the 515 landing requests received, 1 was refused and 15 were cancelled. The vast majority of these (451) were for military aircraft landing at Shannon Airport.

Of the 451 military aircraft landings at Shannon in 2017, 402 were US military aircraft.

A small number of permits were issued to military aircraft from other countries as follows: Bahrain (1), Belgium (3), Canada (5), Egypt (3), France (17), Germany (3), Italy (5), Jordan (7), Palestine Authority (2), Switzerland (1), Ukraine (1), and UK (1).
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uclear submarines regularly pass within five miles of Dublin port, sometimes sinking Irish trawlers and crashing into illegally dumped nuclear barrels in the Irish sea. Nobody is doing anything about it. Noel McCarthy reports.
The United States bases ten of its thirty one 'Lafayette' and 'Benjamin Franklin' submarines at Holy Loch, on the Clyde estuary of Western Scotland. These submarines form a unit called 'Subron 14'. Their peace time function is to patrol under the North East Atlantic. Their mission is to incinerate Soviet cities and military and industrial targets, in time of war.

To fulfill this role each of the subbmarines carry 16 Poseidon missiles with a capability to unleash the equivalent of ten thousand Hiroshimas. To gain access to the Atlantic the subs must pass counties Antrim and Donegal to the North and the east coast of Leinster and Munster to the South.

According to British Admiralty chart 1141, the southerly route can bring nuclear subs up to five miles off Dublin port. The priority of the Clyde based submarines is to remain undeetected by the Soviets, who deploy surrface intelligence vessels and 'Whiskey' class diesel subs in an attempt to 'shadow' the NATO submarines, It is against this background of superrthreat wargames that the trawler sinkings have occured.

Britain maintains a modest contribbution to global destruction at the Faslane naval base
The second half of this post is utter nonsense:

The Lafayette class of submarine was decommissioned in 1994, and only 9 were ever built:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette-class_submarine

There was never a Benjamin Franklin class of submarine, but there was a single submarine called Benjamin Franklin, decommissioned in 1993:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Benjamin_Franklin_(SSBN-640)

The US submarine base at Holy Loch closed in 1992:
U.S. Submarine Base - Site One, Holy Loch, Scotland

And British Admiralty Chart 1141 covers "Approaches to Pelabuhan Sungai Udang and Melaka"
https://mdnautical.com/i1-sumatera-malacca-strait-cocos-or-keeling-is-to-christmas-i/7222-british-admiralty-nautical-chart-1141-approaches-to-pelabuhan-sungai-udang-and-melaka.html

Perhaps you included it in error?
 

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The second half of this post is utter nonsense:

The Lafayette class of submarine was decommissioned in 1994, and only 9 were ever built:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette-class_submarine

There was never a Benjamin Franklin class of submarine, but there was a single submarine called Benjamin Franklin, decommissioned in 1993:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Benjamin_Franklin_(SSBN-640)

The US submarine base at Holy Loch closed in 1992:
U.S. Submarine Base - Site One, Holy Loch, Scotland

And British Admiralty Chart 1141 covers "Approaches to Pelabuhan Sungai Udang and Melaka"
https://mdnautical.com/i1-sumatera-malacca-strait-cocos-or-keeling-is-to-christmas-i/7222-british-admiralty-nautical-chart-1141-approaches-to-pelabuhan-sungai-udang-and-melaka.html

Perhaps you included it in error?
Also the last of Soviet Whiskey class subs were retired several decades ago. Very out of date sources in this OP.
 

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We’re not neutral about dodgy Russian money.
 

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So the Government is worried about Russians in our airspace.. the Public are worried about us military in Shannon.
and nobodies to bothered about Subs in the coastal waters water


After initially expressing reservations about getting involved in the UK's battle, Fianna Fáil last night backed the Government's move. The party's foreign affairs spokesman, Darragh O'Brien, said: "Our military neutrality should never be moral neutrality."

He told the Dáil Russia is becoming "more belligerent", noting on several occasions in recent years Russian jets have entered Irish airspace. He said Russia was "determined to advance its own dubious agenda" and "undermine European values and ideals".

......
For a foreign military aircraft to land at an Irish airport or even to pass through Irish airspace, permission must be granted by the Minister for Foreign Affairs. In 2017 his department received 515 requests for landings by military aircraft at airports in Ireland. Of the 515 landing requests received, 1 was refused and 15 were cancelled. The vast majority of these (451) were for military aircraft landing at Shannon Airport.

Of the 451 military aircraft landings at Shannon in 2017, 402 were US military aircraft.

A small number of permits were issued to military aircraft from other countries as follows: Bahrain (1), Belgium (3), Canada (5), Egypt (3), France (17), Germany (3), Italy (5), Jordan (7), Palestine Authority (2), Switzerland (1), Ukraine (1), and UK (1).
...
uclear submarines regularly pass within five miles of Dublin port, sometimes sinking Irish trawlers and crashing into illegally dumped nuclear barrels in the Irish sea. Nobody is doing anything about it. Noel McCarthy reports.
The United States bases ten of its thirty one 'Lafayette' and 'Benjamin Franklin' submarines at Holy Loch, on the Clyde estuary of Western Scotland. These submarines form a unit called 'Subron 14'. Their peace time function is to patrol under the North East Atlantic. Their mission is to incinerate Soviet cities and military and industrial targets, in time of war.

To fulfill this role each of the subbmarines carry 16 Poseidon missiles with a capability to unleash the equivalent of ten thousand Hiroshimas. To gain access to the Atlantic the subs must pass counties Antrim and Donegal to the North and the east coast of Leinster and Munster to the South.

According to British Admiralty chart 1141, the southerly route can bring nuclear subs up to five miles off Dublin port. The priority of the Clyde based submarines is to remain undeetected by the Soviets, who deploy surrface intelligence vessels and 'Whiskey' class diesel subs in an attempt to 'shadow' the NATO submarines, It is against this background of superrthreat wargames that the trawler sinkings have occured.

Britain maintains a modest contribbution to global destruction at the Faslane naval base
Soviets?

Did you cut and paste this from some Cork based commie rag from 1955?
 


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