Open question to Eoghan Harris



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Another week and another exercise in insane narcissism from Corporal Harris.

Many in Irish media are now covertly climbing on the Boris bandwagon. But last July I was almost alone in warning his critics that "Churchill too, was dismissed as a drunkard, messer and all-round chancer".
 

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The best Op-Ed writers touch on something which strikes a chord with a readership. The only reason people read Harris these days is to see what lunacy he is recommending today.
I stopped reading him but returned recently. He has entertainment value for sure.
 

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I stopped reading him but returned recently. He has entertainment value for sure.
On the theory that a stopped clock is sometimes correct, I read him occasionally but have yet to read anything which I considered enlightening.
 

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I haven't read him in years but I recall his 'I predicted this in (fill in suitable date) when no one else was saying it'. If you ever take the trouble to research it you nearly always find he didn't.
 

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On the theory that a stopped clock is sometimes correct, I read him occasionally but have yet to read anything which I considered enlightening.
It is much like reading the ramblings of an angry teenager of limited ability who is always quoting Aristotle in a vain attempt to appear intellectual.
 

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It is much like reading the ramblings of an angry teenager of limited ability who is always quoting Aristotle in a vain attempt to appear intellectual.
Yes, a 13 year old screaming "look at me, look at me, I deserve recognition too!"
 

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Always very handy to be able to call in dead people as back up for your beliefs about the future isn't it? They can't contradict you, for starters.

I wonder how many times Mr Harris cited Gay Byrne as support for his views on anything at all before the guy died?
Even if Gay Byrne would agree - who cares ? Why does Harris think that lends any weight to his argument?
 

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Another fusillade from Eoghan Harris:

Characteristic double standards. He obviously wants the South to start 'tormenting' Northern nationalists by cold shouldering and icy disdain towards their constitutional aspiration.
Following his argument to its logical conclusion it is clear that he sees the vote of a nationalist as subordinate to that of a unionist in determining the constitutional direction of NI. This has disturbing corollaries.
Violence from republican paramilitaries aimed at usurping the majority-supported dispensation in NI was firmly, and rightly, opposed by ROI and UK governments -- with Harris's approval. Yet he seems to have a somewhat indulgent (to put it mildly) attitude towards hypothetical loyalist violence in a converse scenario. The double standard would be obvious to a simpleton. This again has disturbing corollaries.
However I don't think that this is the right time for a border poll. It is better to wait until the full, UI inclining, effects of Brexit are felt.
 

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Mr Harris was a Stalinist in his early years, then he was a Stickie, then a Loyalist, then a Unionist, A Fianna Fáil senator and now a Brexiteer.
 

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Mr Harris was a Stalinist in his early years, then he was a Stickie, then a Loyalist, then a Unionist, A Fianna Fáil senator and now a Brexiteer.
Don't forget that he was the bestest little Marxist for a while and even practiced his "man of destiny" look while waiting to be appointed kommissar of the Socialist Soviet Republic of Ireland. :) Think that he was a "tankie" too.
 

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Another fusillade from Eoghan Harris:

Characteristic double standards. He obviously wants South to start 'tormenting' Northern nationalists by cold shouldering and icy disdain towards their constitutional aspiration.
Following his argument to its logical conclusion it is clear that he sees the vote of a nationalist as subordinate to that of a unionist in determining the constitutional direction of NI. This has disturbing corollaries.
Violence from republican paramilitaries aimed at usurping the majority-supported dispensation in NI was firmly, and rightly, opposed by ROI and UK governments -- with Harris's approval. Yet he seems to have a somewhat indulgent (to put it mildly) attitude towards loyalist violence in a hypothetical, converse situation. The double standard would be obvious to a simpleton. This again has disturbing corollaries.
However I don't think that this is the right time for a border poll. It is better to wait until the full, UI inclining, effects of Brexit are felt.
He has self-designated as Unionists southern apologist but is clever enough never to push it so far that it becomes too obvious. He claims almost unique credibility in offering pathetic light-weight criticism of Unionism of the 'constructive' type but this only came after some sly digs at the EU no doubt in the hope that it might provoke some underlying hostility here which might be used to take the bad look off of the DUPs ridiculous antics. He sees his role as an apologist for them rather than moderate Unionists because they make up the large majority in Unionism.

The near unanimous revulsion(I suspect) among other journalists at Dudley Edwards shamelessly partisan stance against Ireland which culminated in her removal from the newspaper and the opinion polls showing increased support for the EU here as well as other countries made Harris pull back from this position- hence the aforementioned mealy - mouthed criticisms which are offered in order to establish a facade of balance when he goes after his real targets-SF and any agent of the Irish state who doesn't adhere to his craven prescriptions as to how we are to respond to the DUP.

It was noticeable that he was very late to the party surrounding the Brexit issue and here on this site the discussion was at a much more advanced stage of understanding when he first began to realise it's likely implications for the DUP and his obvious ignorance of the subject has completely undermined his position and caused him to make some very embarrassing miscalculations. He did not understand the economic situation which ties us so firmly to the EU, he did not understand how economically powerful the EU is compared to the UK and he did not understand the degree to which the DUP put themselves into such an impossible position by getting in the way of what the rest of the UK wanted while wrestling with this powerful adversary.

In contrast to the dry presentation of DUP transgressions he reserves a damning moralistic tone for criticism of Irish politicians who fail to show enough spinelessness when presented with laughable Unionist behaviour . In fact , in comparison to that behaviour Irish politicians have been remarkably limited in their criticism preferring instead to state their position firmly and unambiguously rather than engaging in much inflammatory rhetoric and it is a measure of how far his kind of thinking has gone that this is deemed unacceptable in an Irish newspaper. Having come from this side of the fence myself I began to feel that this had gone too far at the time that the FAI decided to mark the anniversary of the Loughlinisland massacre and some southern opinion disgraced themselves by objecting though I don't believe that Harris was one of them.

Anyway-his last paragraph there is as good as any. He says -please hold your laughter til after you've read it-that his type of approach to Unionists is bearing fruit and offers a leader in the Belfast Newsletter as proof

'Last week a leader in the unionist Belfast News Letter noted Martin's views on a Border poll and concluded: "Mr Martin is never going to have the same world view as a unionist, yet he is the sort of politician unionists must cultivate to show they are open to excellent relations with Dublin despite their frustrations with the current government." '

In other words -'Martin is the sort of politician who might not have held us to account for our flagrant disregard for the Nationalist population and the delicate political and constitutional balance in Ireland in promoting first Brexit and then a hard Brexit'.

Indeed why wouldn't they cultivate it when they have their agents here throwing plenty of sh1t around that it might seed. But if I was Michael Martin I would sup with a long spoon when it comes to being nudged into this position.
 

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At Harris’s stage, it’s a blessing to be talked about in any way. By that criterion he remains successful.
 


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