Opportunities for Irish Trade expansion post-Brexit

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This is a thread to gather together the stories of those men and women amongst us diversifying our economy and output now - some 500 days before the UK leaves the EU at the end of the Article 50 period.

Snail farmer Eva Milka of Gaelic Escargot in Co Carlow is targeting the shortage of snails for consumption in continental European countries such as France, Italy and Spain, where they are viewed as a delicacy, and is in turn fueling growth in snail farming in Ireland.

A shortage of snails for consumption in European countries such as France, Italy and Spain, where they are viewed as a delicacy, is fuelling growth in snail farming in Ireland.
There are now an estimated 20 small scale producers in Ireland, up from just six this time last year, according to Sean McGloin of the National Organic Training Skillset (NOTS), which is organising a two-day national seminar on snail production in Tullamore on Monday and Tuesday (November 20th-21st).


“On average there is an annual shortfall of 100,000 tons of snail meat in Europe,” McGloin says.
With demand exceeding supply in Europe, and possible new markets opening up in the Middle East and Africa, there is growing interest in the alternative farm enterprise, which offers high yields and can be undertaken on as little as one acre of land.
According to Eva who in 2014 became the first person to farm snails commercially in Ireland, one acre can produce 10 tons of snail meat a year (the cycle is 10 months). Sold live, this crop is worth €40,000, and will have cost around €20,000 to produce, she says.

The global market for edible snails is worth €1 billion, according to NOTS, with the French and Italian markets accounting for €300 million. France imports more than 80 per cent of its escargot requirements and Italy imports 60 percent, leading to an export potential valued at around €200 million, which Irish farmers are responding to.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/irish-snail-farmers-on-the-money-trail-1.3294714
 
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Are you going into the snail business yourself ?

Or is this something that you are going to preach to other people about, whilst sitting on your ass talking up the nEU empire?

If there is a shortfall then presumably external providers ( who may well be operating on a lower cost base, & with lower taxes ) have to be dislodged.
 

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Are you going into the snail business yourself ?

Or is this something that you are going to preach to other people about, whilst sitting on your ass talking up the nEU empire?

If there is a shortfall then presumably external providers ( who may well be operating on a lower cost base, & with lower taxes ) have to be dislodged.
The purpose of this thread is pretty clear. Do feel free to set up your own if the subject matter doesn't appeal.
 

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Its a great idea for a thread. Maybe people are so unaccustomed to seeing anything constructive on p.ie that they don't get it.
 

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The purpose of this thread is pretty clear. Do feel free to set up your own if the subject matter doesn't appeal.
The purpose of your response is to avoid the questions given.
 

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The purpose of your response is to avoid the questions given.
It's a discussion, not an interrogation. It's an important distinction that once mastered can massively improve your social life.
 

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The purpose of your response is to avoid the questions given.
You're a tool Analyzer...

The purpose of your existence here is baffling cos you're nothing but a relentless whingebag...

If you don't like the thread f*** off and create one of your own where you can post your tedious nonsense to yourself ad nauseum...
 

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Obviously is FDI for EU market - services and high value added manufacturing so pharma & chips.

Hang on that's what we do already.
 

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Air connectivity is going to have a few more injections of life next year... with Aer Lingus starting Philadelphia and Seattle in early summer... Cathay starting Hong Kong around the same time with Air Canada starting Montreal... and while plenty of people bang on about technology reducing the need for face to face meetings... the fact is face to face is still very necessary and direct air routes to more destinations open up more opportunities...

Long may the airlines continue to grow and open up these opportunities as Ireland looks beyond Blighty in the times ahead...
 

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With all the sniggering in the cheap seats post Brexit that we might steal a few jobs off the Britz, sure there is at least an equal chance that many sleeveen Paddy businesses who have Britain as their main market may feck off over there and many would say off with the koontz to fúck!
 

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With all the sniggering in the cheap seats post Brexit that we might steal a few jobs off the Britz, sure there is at least an equal chance that many sleeveen Paddy businesses who have Britain as their main market may feck off over there and many would say off with the koontz to fúck!
Actually you raise an interesting advantage we Irish will have in post Brexit Britain as not foreign for the purposes of UK domestic law. With a trash currency it would be a great fire sale opportunity of the best UK assets without non-resident restrictions.
 

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This is a thread to gather together the stories of those men and women amongst us diversifying our economy and output now - some 500 days before the UK leaves the EU at the end of the Article 50 period.

Snail farmer Eva Milka of Gaelic Escargot in Co Carlow is targeting the shortage of snails for consumption in continental European countries such as France, Italy and Spain, where they are viewed as a delicacy, and is in turn fueling growth in snail farming in Ireland.



https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/irish-snail-farmers-on-the-money-trail-1.3294714
Herding them is a pain though. You'd be hours getting them through the gate
 

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What about frogs legs? There's a big market for those in France, I don't know if there's much of an opportunity to break into it though.
 

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This is a thread to gather together the stories of those men and women amongst us diversifying our economy and output now - some 500 days before the UK leaves the EU at the end of the Article 50 period.

Snail farmer Eva Milka of Gaelic Escargot in Co Carlow is targeting the shortage of snails for consumption in continental European countries such as France, Italy and Spain, where they are viewed as a delicacy, and is in turn fueling growth in snail farming in Ireland.



https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/irish-snail-farmers-on-the-money-trail-1.3294714

With demand exceeding supply in Europe, and possible new markets opening up in the Middle East and Africa, there is growing interest in the alternative farm enterprise, which offers high yields and can be undertaken on as little as one acre of land.
According to Eva who in 2014 became the first person to farm snails commercially in Ireland, one acre can produce 10 tons of snail meat a year (the cycle is 10 months). Sold live, this crop is worth €40,000, and will have cost around €20,000 to produce, she says.
The global market for edible snails is worth €1 billion, according to NOTS, with the French and Italian markets accounting for €300 million. France imports more than 80 per cent of its escargot requirements and Italy imports 60 percent, leading to an export potential valued at around €200 million, which Irish farmers are responding to.
Snail meat works out at €4/kg. You could get much better returns on some other crops. Soccer players, for instance. Neymar weighs 70kg at most but Paris Saint Germain forked out €222 million for him. That works out at €3.2 million a kilo, 800,000 times the return you'd get on snails.

I wouldn't think the production costs would be that high either. They say a tough upbringing gets the best out of players so you don't need to pamper them. You might even get them contributing to their keep at an early age.

Say we put a well-researched programme in place with capital grants, development grants, subsidised loans etc. 100 Neymars a year would bring in over €22 billion at a cost of €2 billion at most. That's a third of the annual budget, enough to wipe out income tax entirely. We'd have the happiest rich people in the world.

And if the soccer player programme worked out, we could extend it to film stars, singers and supermodels. Serious returns there for the right market-driven product. There could also be other openings like celebrity economists, reality TV stars, mega-bloggers, Facebook trenders, Twitter sages, conspiracy theorists, victims etc. If the Kardashians can do it, what's to stop us from exploiting market opportunities? Maybe we could respectfully ask Bono and Sir Bob Geldof to give us the benefit of their expertise.

Come on Ireland! Say no to fuddy-duddy sensibilities. A bit of blue-sky thinking and we could all be rolling in fabulous riches.
 
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Wow EU fanboys with no business experience try talk up the chance of us finding other markets for our 16 billion trade to the UK .....

And another genius thinks we can do it on scheduled airline flights

Seems pantomime season has started early this year :roll: FFS!

Heres a clue ...there arent billions worth of export opportunities we just havent bothered with yet cos we couldnt be arsed :roll: which of course anyone would know if they were actually involved in exporting ...

The EU fanboy delusions and stupidity is getting bigger by the day on Brexit threads
 

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The only English speaking EU nation. We should be selling ourselves as a bridge to the Anglosphere.
 

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Wow EU fanboys with no business experience try talk up the chance of us finding other markets for our 16 billion trade to the UK .....

And another genius thinks we can do it on scheduled airline flights

Seems pantomime season has started early this year :roll: FFS!

Heres a clue ...there arent billions worth of export opportunities we just havent bothered with yet cos we couldnt be arsed :roll: which of course anyone would know if they were actually involved in exporting ...

The EU fanboy delusions and stupidity is getting bigger by the day on Brexit threads
What do the UK sell to the EU. Let's undercut them now they are outside.
 

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Wow EU fanboys with no business experience try talk up the chance of us finding other markets for our 16 billion trade to the UK .....

And another genius thinks we can do it on scheduled airline flights

Seems pantomime season has started early this year :roll: FFS!

Heres a clue ...there arent billions worth of export opportunities we just havent bothered with yet cos we couldnt be arsed :roll: which of course anyone would know if they were actually involved in exporting ...

The EU fanboy delusions and stupidity is getting bigger by the day on Brexit threads
The UK ain't going to disappear off the face of the Earth whether there's a deal or no deal.

And UK citizens are still going to need food and drink and everything else they currently buy on March 30th 2019...

Trade will probably diminish but it won't collapse... so thinking that €16 billion or whatever it is will disappear overnight is... well... I wouldn't like to say what it is in case I offended you... :cool:

Trade will be a bit slower and more hassle... and there'll be tariffs on much and possibly most of it... but we'll all cope... the Brits, the EU... the world...

Why so negative brughahaha...?

Brexit will produce opportunities as well as disasters for us... such is life.
 

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What do the UK sell to the EU. Let's undercut them now they are outside.

You do know markets (and experytise) take decades to build up right ? .... Although judging by the infantile level of the thread probably not

So lets pretend you could possibly be right ,Lets take Financial Services ...and if you think this overpriced gridlocked services free cultural wasteland on the outer fringes of Europe could attract the talent needed to run serious financial services your barking ...absolutely clueless and barking
 


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