Orangefest 2016

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Belfast City Council's decision in recent years to market the Twelfth as "Orangefest" was viewed as a cringeworthy attempt to popularise and commercialise a distinctly regional event characterised by sectarianism, triumphalism, supremacism and alcoholism, and market it to a global tourist clientele as a joyful, colourful and inclusive cultural festival and social experience.

This year Belfast City Council is marketing "Orangefest 2016" with the following description:

"The twelfth of July celebrations showcase aspects of Ulster's rich heritage and culture such as Orange Lodges, marching bands, fife and drums, flute music and the sound of Ulster's unique Lambeg drum."
Orangefest 2016 and Twelfth Celebrations | Culture Northern Ireland


Aesthetically pleasing? No, because they're not pretty people.

In the past most businesses in Belfast closed their shutters on the twelfth, and middle class Unionist's would go on holiday, as they'd rather sip cocktails in a foreign destination than risk exposure to their working class, Buckfast swilling, fellow countrymen.

As I drove around East Belfast, Bangor and Newtonards at the weekend, it was impossible to ignore the proliferation of flags, with 2-3 per lamp-post, and many Loyalist paramilitary flags among the Orange standards, Union Jacks and NI flags. Yet the OO have been keen to distance themselves from Loyalist paramilitarism.

As an Irish politico-religious organisation founded in Co. Armagh, Ireland in 1795, they have their undeniable place in Irish history, and in the interests of freedom of cultural expression and cultural equality I'll defend to the last their right to exist, even if their ethos is not characterised by equality.

But is "Orangefest" the best an organisation which has been likened to the KKK can conceive of in an attempt to modernise themselves, and make the Order more appealing to people other than the stereotypical Ulster Prod?
 


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Belfast City Council's decision in recent years to market the Twelfth as "Orangefest" was viewed as a cringeworthy attempt to popularise and commercialise a distinctly regional event characterised by sectarianism, triumphalism, supremacism and alcoholism, and market it to a global tourist clientele as a joyful, colourful and inclusive cultural festival and social experience.

This year Belfast City Council is marketing "Orangefest 2016" with the following description:


Orangefest 2016 and Twelfth Celebrations | Culture Northern Ireland


Aesthetically pleasing? No, because they're not pretty people.

In the past most businesses in Belfast closed their shutters on the twelfth, and middle class Unionist's would go on holiday, as they'd rather sip cocktails in a foreign destination than risk exposure to their working class, Buckfast swilling, fellow countrymen.

As I drove around East Belfast, Bangor and Newtonards at the weekend, it was impossible to ignore the proliferation of flags, with 2-3 per lamp-post, and many Loyalist paramilitary flags among the Orange standards, Union Jacks and NI flags. Yet the OO have been keen to distance themselves from Loyalist paramilitarism.

As an Irish politico-religious organisation founded in Co. Armagh, Ireland in 1795, they have their undeniable place in Irish history, and in the interests of freedom of cultural expression and cultural equality I'll defend to the last their right to exist, even if their ethos is not characterised by equality.

But is "Orangefest" the best an organisation which has been likened to the KKK can conceive of in an attempt to modernise themselves, and make the Order more appealing to people other than the stereotypical Ulster Prod?
agh now , you can call sh1ttt custard but it is still shi1ttt

 

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Belfast City Council's decision in recent years to market the Twelfth as "Orangefest" was viewed as a cringeworthy attempt to popularise and commercialise a distinctly regional event characterised by sectarianism, triumphalism, supremacism and alcoholism, and market it to a global tourist clientele as a joyful, colourful and inclusive cultural festival and social experience.

This year Belfast City Council is marketing "Orangefest 2016" with the following description:


Orangefest 2016 and Twelfth Celebrations | Culture Northern Ireland


Aesthetically pleasing? No, because they're not pretty people.

In the past most businesses in Belfast closed their shutters on the twelfth, and middle class Unionist's would go on holiday, as they'd rather sip cocktails in a foreign destination than risk exposure to their working class, Buckfast swilling, fellow countrymen.

As I drove around East Belfast, Bangor and Newtonards at the weekend, it was impossible to ignore the proliferation of flags, with 2-3 per lamp-post, and many Loyalist paramilitary flags among the Orange standards, Union Jacks and NI flags. Yet the OO have been keen to distance themselves from Loyalist paramilitarism.

As an Irish politico-religious organisation founded in Co. Armagh, Ireland in 1795, they have their undeniable place in Irish history, and in the interests of freedom of cultural expression and cultural equality I'll defend to the last their right to exist, even if their ethos is not characterised by equality.

But is "Orangefest" the best an organisation which has been likened to the KKK can conceive of in an attempt to modernise themselves, and make the Order more appealing to people other than the stereotypical Ulster Prod?
Orangefest :D
 

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Have they done a deal with Fanta Orange??

In February 2015, a 75th anniversary version of Fanta was released in Germany. Packaged in glass bottles evoking the original design and with an authentic original war-time flavor including 30% whey and pomace, it is described on the packaging as "less sweet" and a German original. An associated television ad referenced the history of the drink and said the Coca-Cola company wanted to bring back "the feeling of the Good Old Times" which was interpreted by many to mean Nazi rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanta
 

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agh now , you can call sh1ttt custard but it is still shi1ttt

Have to confess, was always a bit partial to the Waffen-SS uniform. Even the morbidly obese Nazis looked smart in that outfit.
 

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[video=youtube;GnR-mtG1wuQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnR-mtG1wuQ[/video]
 

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But is "Orangefest" the best an organisation which has been likened to the KKK can conceive of in an attempt to modernise themselves, and make the Order more appealing to people other than the stereotypical Ulster Prod?
Aughnacloy, is a major traffic hub between Dublin and the Northwest and you guess it the Orange men are going to stop the traffic so they can parade.

How to win friends...........NOT


[video=youtube;wxhcDqNskJg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhcDqNskJg[/video]
 

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Ach ye poor didmumz the jealously is hanging out of yez, LMFAO...
 

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Aughnacloy, is a major traffic hub between Dublin and the Northwest and you guess it the Orange men are going to stop the traffic so they can parade.

How to win friends...........NOT


[video=youtube;wxhcDqNskJg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhcDqNskJg[/video]
Sometimes I think people forget that trade, commerce and infrastructure are not essential to the functioning and survival of a society, whereas marching is crucial.
 

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Hey !

Stap this respectin are kulture !​
 

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Aughnacloy, is a major traffic hub between Dublin and the Northwest and you guess it the Orange men are going to stop the traffic so they can parade.

How to win friends...........NOT


[video=youtube;wxhcDqNskJg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhcDqNskJg[/video]
Bit of an acid vibe to that video.
 

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Aughnacloy, is a major traffic hub between Dublin and the Northwest and you guess it the Orange men are going to stop the traffic so they can parade.

How to win friends...........NOT


[video=youtube;wxhcDqNskJg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhcDqNskJg[/video]
The traffic might be stopped for half an hour. The shops, bars and food outlets will have their best day of the year.

Perspective is required.
 

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The traffic might be stopped for half an hour. The shops, bars and food outlets will have their best day of the year.

Perspective is required.
The Orange and their followers do provide a good trade in booze, it has to be said.

Ah ffs, blaming themuns just went to a whole new level.
Former UUP MLA blames Irish News for tyres on bonfire
Former UUP MLA blames Irish News for tyres on bonfire - The Irish News
No surrender.
Frightening to think that ratepayers money was used to fund the purchasing of "pallets and petrol", but what Adrian Cochrane-Watson of the UUP failed to push home, is the fact that this is a very neatly and impressively stacked bonfire and worth the money! (???):

 

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The traffic might be stopped for half an hour. The shops, bars and food outlets will have their best day of the year.

Perspective is required.
OMG

New idea, march in places that does not require you to hold up the traffic. Its crazy I know but what the heck...... its the christian. thing to do.
 

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Calling it a "fest" doesn't get away from the fact that these marches should have no place in the 21st century.
There are better ways of expressing your culture than marching around streets, especially in areas you're not wanted.
 

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Calling it a "fest" doesn't get away from the fact that these marches should have no place in the 21st century.
There are better ways of expressing your culture than marching around streets, especially in areas you're not wanted.
Dry yer eyes ye gurning windbag...
 

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OMG

New idea, march in places that does not require you to hold up the traffic. Its crazy I know but what the heck...... its the christian. thing to do.
If you want to ban local people from ever using their own area to celebrate things then put that forward. I recall aughnacloy being closed to traffic when the Tyrone team last won the Sam Maguire. It is also closed for the local festival.
Do you want all these things banned?

St Patrick's day would have to go as well but if you feel traffic is paramount , fair enough.

Can you get cyclists bucked off the road when you are at it?
 


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