Orban wins third term. What next for Drunken Juncker and co?



Dame_Enda

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Update looks like contrary to earlier expectations, Fidez will again have a supermajority of two thirds of the seats, allowing him to change constitution.

Congratulations to Orban. Europeans can sleep sounder now knowing the Balkan route for illegals is closed. (nearly)
 

flavirostris

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For Brussels it's a headache to add to the Italian elections. They may step up actions against Hungary.
 

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For Brussels it's a headache to add to the Italian elections. They may step up actions against Hungary.
It does look like and East/West fracture for the EU. The Italian situation is worse because there are internal issues that are driving the discontent with unelected bureaucrats like Drunken Juncker.
 

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It does look like and East/West fracture for the EU. The Italian situation is worse because there are internal issues that are driving the discontent with unelected bureaucrats like Drunken Juncker.

But it's not.
It's fairly universal.

Macron admits that there would be a Frexit if they allowed such a vote (so, of course they won't).

French president says UK took risk in way it let voters decide ‘very complicated subject’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/21/emmanuel-macron-uk-yes-no-brexit-vote-mistake

EU citizens are seriously pi$$ed off about the Union and the way it's being run.
 

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But it's not.
It's fairly universal.

Macron admits that there would be a Frexit if they allowed such a vote (so, of course they won't).
But the Eastern bloc countries seem to be working together whereas Macron seems to want a French/German dominated EU even if it is against the intentions of the French electorate.

EU citizens are seriously pi$$ed off about the Union and the way it's being run.
The next EU parliament elections should be interesting.
 

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For Brussels it's a headache to add to the Italian elections. They may step up actions against Hungary.
Bit difficult to take action when endorsed in the overwhelming manner that they have been. Maybe there are other examples currently in Europe but i cant think of any parties or governments off the top of my head that currently have that level of support.
 

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But it's not.
It's fairly universal.

Macron admits that there would be a Frexit if they allowed such a vote (so, of course they won't).



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/21/emmanuel-macron-uk-yes-no-brexit-vote-mistake

EU citizens are seriously pi$$ed off about the Union and the way it's being run.
Well very soon people will have a living, breathing example of how great leaving the EU can be for a country.

That should help them make such decisions.
 

flavirostris

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Well very soon people will have a living, breathing example of how great leaving the EU can be for a country.

That should help them make such decisions.
You guys seem to think Britain will turn into Somalia or something when it leaves the EU. It won't.

Have you seen the state of Switzerland or Norway or Iceland. Total failed state, shítholes as Donald Trump might say.
 

HarshBuzz

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You guys seem to think Britain will turn into Somalia or something when it leaves the EU. It won't.

Have you seen the state of Switzerland or Norway or Iceland. Total failed state, shítholes as Donald Trump might say.
Leap to conclusions much?

I don't claim to know how Britain will fare outside the EU. The manner in which they've sought to manage their leaving doesn't inspire confidence though.
 

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You guys seem to think Britain will turn into Somalia or something when it leaves the EU. It won't.

Have you seen the state of Switzerland or Norway or Iceland. Total failed state, shítholes as Donald Trump might say.
When did they leave the EU?
 

flavirostris

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When did they leave the EU?
They never even joined in the first place, which sort of makes a mockery of the claims of some of the doom mongers here who think leaving the EU is like committing suicide.

In fact those countries are doing considerably better outside the EU.
 
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Leap to conclusions much?

I don't claim to know how Britain will fare outside the EU. The manner in which they've sought to manage their leaving doesn't inspire confidence though.
You mean they haven't fallen into the trap of playing by the EU rule book? And neither you nor the entire eurocracy know how to deal with that.
 

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You guys seem to think Britain will turn into Somalia or something when it leaves the EU. It won't.

Have you seen the state of Switzerland or Norway or Iceland. Total failed state, shítholes as Donald Trump might say.
Link.
 

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They never even joined in the first place, which sort of makes a mockery of the claims of some of the doom mongers here who think leaving the EU is like committing suicide.

In fact those countries are doing considerably better outside the EU.
Moldova, Albania and Serbia are also outside the EU.
 

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They never even joined in the first place, which sort of makes a mockery of the claims of some of the doom mongers here who think leaving the EU is like committing suicide.

In fact those countries are doing considerably better outside the EU.
Is Norway not in the customs union? Pretty sure the Swiss are heavily aligned with the EU as well.
 

flavirostris

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Moldova, Albania and Serbia are also outside the EU.
Being in the EU dosen't mean prosperity no more than being outside the EU dosen't equal lack of prosperity.

How do you explain the prosperity of the USA or Australia when they were never in the EU?
 

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You mean they haven't fallen into the trap of playing by the EU rule book? And neither you nor the entire eurocracy know how to deal with that.
Well they do actually. Norway, for example, follows EU rules, is in Schengen and imports its goods tariff free into the EU.
 

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Jobbik seems to have maintained its vote more or less but its leader Gabor Vona has resigned, in line with promise to do so.
 
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Well they do actually. Norway, for example, follows EU rules, is in Schengen and imports its goods tariff free into the EU.
I was referring to the negotiating format and protocols that the EU expected would be followed.
 


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