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Over 2 million working and unemployment up

SamsonS

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That's what the CSO says!

So, we'll start with the negative. The unemployment rate has been revised upwards, at 8.3%. It was at 7.8%. In numbers its 183000 people, as opposed to what was reported for June 169,100.

On employment we have passed the 2m working, now at 2.014m, and our labour force has jumped by 46000 since q1.

Year on year we have 56000 more people working, 23400 less unemployed and 36000 more in the labour force.
Quarterly National Household Survey Quarter 2 2016 - CSO - Central Statistics Office

On population and emigration, this year more came in than left. However Irish migration is still negative, 10500 more Irish left than returned.
 


off with their heads

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its going to be worse this time round.......no london..canada..oz etc for young people to flee to :?
 

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The stalling of our previously shrinking unemployment is worrying and something that should really be looked at. Perhaps now is the time to begin spending some of that multi-national cash on infrastructure projects which will bring employment and boost competitiveness. We could do with a phased plan of water modernisation to bring us into the 21st century. We're also in dire need of better rail provision in Greater Dublin. We could also do with some investment in clean energy.

These simple things would take so many engineers, scientists and trades people off the dole and back into a position where they have disposable income in addition to improving the functionality and efficiency of our society.
 

SamsonS

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The stalling of our previously shrinking unemployment is worrying and something that should really be looked at. Perhaps now is the time to begin spending some of that multi-national cash on infrastructure projects which will bring employment and boost competitiveness. We could do with a phased plan of water modernisation to bring us into the 21st century. We're also in dire need of better rail provision in Greater Dublin. We could also do with some investment in clean energy.

These simple things would take so many engineers, scientists and trades people off the dole and back into a position where they have disposable income in addition to improving the functionality and efficiency of our society.
Not entirely accurate. Possibly because of the CENSUS the labour force has been increased, and this is reflected in both more people working and more people unemployed. However, they also adjust the previous months unemployment as a result, and these are showing monthly and yearly falls.
From the gov spinning department its the first time since 2008 we've had over 2m working.
From the opposition spinning department the gov employment strategy is in tatters as unemployment has shot up from 7.8% to 8.3%.
 

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According the the CSO, 75% of those working in the multinationals are immigrants, so that puts things into a certain perspective. No doubt the numbers in the services industries is even higher. The native Irish are being made superfluous in our own country.
 

SamsonS

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So basically Irish workers are being replaced?..
Don't think report gives us that. Of the 56200 more people working since q2 2015, 31.9k are Irish 24.3k are not.
Of the 23400 less unemployed 22k is Irish, so only a small fall in non Irish unemployment.
This is because of the labour force increase of 32.8k, of that 9.9k is Irish people, the rest is non Irish people, which would tie in with the emigration stats.
 

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So basically Irish workers are being replaced?..
Yes , we exported all our nurses who trained here for the last 7 or 8 years and this week we are bringing in 30 or so from India and Philippines , in the catering sector no Irish need apply unless you want work 60 hours and be paid for 30 , well done Fine Gael
 

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And rents have never been higher!
 

General Urko

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If I didn't realise that The Red Blueshirts Scum clapping themselves on the back for raising the minimum wage wasn't pure ass holism, it would have been laughable!
All it did was lead the sleeveen business class we are steeped in here to reduce workers' wages, without any restriction on them!
 

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Isn't par for the course that apart from specialized areas within The HSE and BTW I don't mean pen pushers, that our much cherished public sector would have seen very few if any foreigners employed in it!
Apartheid is very much alive and well!
 

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Yes , we exported all our nurses who trained here for the last 7 or 8 years and this week we are bringing in 30 or so from India and Philippines , in the catering sector no Irish need apply unless you want work 60 hours and be paid for 30 , well done Fine Gael
This is illegal. If you know of this report it as I have done. Otherwise I assume you have made this up.
 

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According the the CSO, 75% of those working in the multinationals are immigrants, so that puts things into a certain perspective. No doubt the numbers in the services industries is even higher. The native Irish are being made superfluous in our own country.
Mainly because the Irish aren't qualified to take on such jobs.

Too many sat on their arses and didn't get the qualifications over the last few years. They preferred to blame others.
 

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Even if numbers working are back at Celtic Tiger levels, workers pay and conditions are substantially lower than at that time! And absolutely nothing is being done about this!:mad:
Except that the public sector trade unions are at last pointing out that new entrants (most likely relations of those already there) have worse conditions (still vastly better than private sector equivalents) on entry. I suspect that this is merely an entree to wrangle even far better pay and conditions for the pigs already at the trough!:mad:
 

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Mainly because the Irish aren't qualified to take on such jobs.

Too many sat on their arses and didn't get the qualifications over the last few years. They preferred to blame others.
There is definitely an issue with languages! But contextualise it - I saw some ads on a recruitment agency window seeking people highly proficient in 2 European Languages for call centre work and the rate of pay based in Dublin would be in around 20K and IIRC even slightly worse!
Also, if you were to embark on learning a new language, with the intention of being able to use it to get a decent paying job, you need a good level of fluency and by the time you have achieved this, you face the prospect in the future of some redkneck gobshyte interviewer telling you he/she is basically fluent as well, even though they haven't a syllable but have an APP on their phone that can deal with it!
Also, not only are we completely fooktarded at teaching languages in our schools, we are also virtually as fooktarded in teaching continental languages as well!
 

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