P. Tóibin quits SF.

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Let the slurs and backstabbing begin.
Well if you can lay down some pointers I am sure someone will oblige. This is not much of a surprise and he has looked estranged for a good while.
 

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Ah well, he's far too interested in being anti-abortion after the matter had been decided by referendum so he was going to continue to be a bad fit for SF in the future. At least he has lanced that boil for them and they can now start out on the long road of rebuilding a viable challenge for his now lost SF seat.


He will definitely take the SF seat with him, but he's far from certain to retain it himself. I'd reckon that he'll lose plenty of the SF vote that elected him and he'll need to replace those SF votes that he'll lose with plenty of new votes, not an easy task but he's fortunate enough in that there was no other candidate snapping at his heels at the last GE so he may limp over the line by default.
 

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Don't know why everyone is framing this as abortion, the party froze him out. Any new platform of his as a constituency TD will be focused on local matters to ensure re-election.
 

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Don't know why everyone is framing this as abortion, the party froze him out. Any new platform of his as a constituency TD will be focused on local matters to ensure re-election.
Because London Loo and her West Brit crew froze him out precisely because of his defense of Ireland's Future Generations.
 

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Ah well, he's far too interested in being anti-abortion after the matter had been decided by referendum so he was going to continue to be a bad fit for SF in the future. At least he has lanced that boil for them and they can now start out on the long road of rebuilding a viable challenge for his now lost SF seat.


He will definitely take the SF seat with him, but he's far from certain to retain it himself. I'd reckon that he'll lose plenty of the SF vote that elected him and he'll need to replace those SF votes that he'll lose with plenty of new votes, not an easy task but he's fortunate enough in that there was no other candidate snapping at his heels at the last GE so he may limp over the line by default.
Tóibín will be supported by the 33% of people who voted against infanticide. That will be more than enough for him to top the poll.
 

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A new left wing Nationalist party is needed to represent the 33% of the electorate who are now without a mainstream party.
The left wing is well-catered for on all colours. No hope to get a new party up and running via one TD. The SDs are still at two and Renua are well ...
 

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SF have lost a lot of councillors and now a TD. This along with the presidential vote shows that things aren't going well for them. I'm happy about that.
I always thought that crew would fall apart as soon as Adams stood down - and so it's coming to pass. London Loo is a media talking head. She had no leadership ability.
 

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You'll find that Shame Féin has very little "party" support in Meath. People voted for Tóibín - despite the party he was a member of.
Do you have anything other than your imagination that supports this? I agree with plebian plus he'll have no party machine to help him out. A good chance he'll struggle.
 

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A new left wing Nationalist party is needed to represent the 33% of the electorate who are now without a mainstream party.
Because London Loo and her West Brit crew froze him out precisely because of his defense of Ireland's Future Generations.
You're so single issue focused you don't get it, only a small fraction of your 33% who voted against abortion see it as an overriding existential issue that there should even be a party for it. Any such party you're envisaging would only be as successful as Renua.

As for SF, Peadar might have gone against party policy, but choosing to let a single issue disagreement be a reason to lose such a star performer is utter stupidity on the parties part.

But hey just like old Labour, SF's new Labour is all about petty grievances when someone dares upstage their betters.
 

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The left wing is well-catered for on all colours. No hope to get a new party up and running via one TD. The SDs are still at two and Renua are well ...
Not at all. You mean the Consumerist Fake Left are well catered for.
 

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Do you have anything other than your imagination that supports this? I agree with plebian plus he'll have no party machine to help him out. A good chance he'll struggle.
A reasonable chance that neither he nor his erstwhile party will hold a seat here, with Ray Butler being the one to benefit?
 

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I'm a Socialist, i.e. the type of Socialist who cares about the wages and conditions of the working class more than transgender toilets.
And one who wants to keep the furriners out too, working class or not! Likely to be more votes in that BTW than your favourite topic.
 


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