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Paedophilia isn't a disease per se,rather instead akin to normal sexuality - what should be done about this ?


cyberianpan

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Paedophilia isn't a disease per se,rather instead akin to normal sexuality - what should be done about this ?

Here's an interesting, in depth article on paedophilia :
Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia - latimes.com

The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescent children.
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Other pedophiles are "good people who are struggling," said Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatrist who heads the Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit. "They're tortured souls fighting like heck not to do this. We do virtually nothing in terms of reaching out to these folks. We drive it underground."
It argues that
  1. Paedophilia isn't a disease, instead a sexuality just like say heterosexuality
  2. Many paedophiles never act out on their impulses

And suggests solutions:
In an attempt to change that, sex researchers in Germany launched an unusual media campaign in 2005.

"You are not guilty because of your sexual desire, but you are responsible for your sexual behavior," said billboards urging them to contact the Institute of Sexology and Sexual Medicine in Berlin. "There is help! Don't become an offender!"

More than 1,700 men have responded to the print, television and online ads for Project Dunkelfeld — literally "dark field." As of August, 80 had completed a one-year program aimed at teaching them to control their impulses. Some received hormone shots.

Should we change our view of paedophilia in effort to better support non offenders ? This could include

  • making computer generated porn legal (it is currently illegal)
  • support programmes such as the above
  • etc

cYp
 

eoghanacht

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What is it with you and perverted threads?

How anyone in this day and age who needs to be held by the hand and told why paedophila is wrong needs help themselves.

Three words

Consent
Consent
Consent...
 

Astral Peaks

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cYp, you are a smart guy, you should be better than this.

Starting provocative but disingenous threads just to shock and entice out extremes is lazy, intellectually cheap and narcissistic.

Please stop.
 

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If it was akin to normal sexual behaviour hormone therapy wouldn't be advocated as a countermeasure.
 

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cYp, you are a smart guy, you should be better than this.

Starting provocative but disingenous threads just to shock and entice out extremes is lazy, intellectually cheap and narcissistic.

Please stop.
I'm serious- yes it is a provocative issue - but a serious one. If the offence rates could be reduced that would be a good thing ?

cYp
 
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I'm serious- yes it is a provocative issue - but a serious one. If the offence rates could be reduced that would be a good thing ?

cYp
Your opening remarks are really a matter of definition - disease or sexual orientation. The former would in this context be a disorder of function, the latter a gender preference. Based on that it is a disease - but definitions can change. But I don't see the classification issue - disease or orientation - as being particularly important to the rest of your OP.
 

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I'm serious- yes it is a provocative issue - but a serious one. If the offence rates could be reduced that would be a good thing ?

cYp
1. Apologistic definitions of the syndrome do not help.
2. Hormone treatment is legally difficult.
3. Any intervention that accepts a "normalised" view of paedophilia is extremely problematic.
 

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Well it's a psychiatric disorder under DSM - TR!
 

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If it is a sexuality, which seems plausible enough, it's not akin to "normal" sexuality - it's different in a very important and very obvious way.

We can have sympathy for paedophiles who do not act upon their desires, and we can seek ways to make their lives go easier, so long as none of this compromises our ability to protect children.
 

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KEYHOLE KATE

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These "perspectives" come to you courtesy of The LA Times. Hoywood's Sodom and Gomorrah can't be too far away. Americans call it "pedophilia" which means that they love their feet in a country where sneakers were transformed into trainers as that sounds better - and less sneaky too.
 

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It's probably fair to say that those who are paedophiles do not choose to be attracted to children. Why would you?

However, as children cannot ever consent to sex, any paedophile who acts on their sexual attraction should be dealt with in the same way as any other sex offender.
 

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What is it with you and perverted threads?

How anyone in this day and age who needs to be held by the hand and told why paedophila is wrong needs help themselves.

Three words

Consent
Consent
Consent...
So if the child is consenting then their age is irrelevant as Norris put it?
 

Mr. Bumble

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If it is a sexuality, which seems plausible enough, it's not akin to "normal" sexuality - it's different in a very important and very obvious way.

We can have sympathy for paedophiles who do not act upon their desires, and we can seek ways to make their lives go easier, so long as none of this compromises our ability to protect children.
Interesting views on paedophillia from non-practicing paedophiles here Virtuous Pedophiles - Welcome
 

KEYHOLE KATE

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A high-falutin' discussion on what the Ancient Greeks thought about pederasts and paedophiles is urgently needed in our Senate which is also a very select place. Greece is in bits and the Romans have their own problems.
 

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Instinctively my gut reaction is that it is wrong, that's the gut reaction of the vast majority, absolutely. Children can be and are exploited and are unable to make rational informed decisions vis a vis sex. That said I've heard it said that children (teenagers) aged 16 should have the right to vote but arguably if someone at 16 is adult enough to have the right to vote could you not extend that argument and say that a person aged 16 is also adult enough to make a choice on consenting to sex? Or to smoke or buy alcohol etc? Just throwing it out there. But I guess when most people think of paedophilia they think of a ten year old and a fifty year old or whatever, maybe 16 is a "grey area", I'm not an apologist for paedophiles, far from it, I am simply trying to leave the emotional issue aside and look at it rationally and logically.
 
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