Palestinians Not Hitler Caused The Holocaust Says Netanyahu.



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Given that you accused Dame Enda for being anti-Semitic for less I now accuse you of being Sectarian against Southern Protestants.
I wouldn't mind him. He spent time in a kibbutz when he was a teenager, as did a lot of kids, and thinks he's the saviour of Israel ever since. :)
 

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I wouldn't mind him. He spent time in a kibbutz when he was a teenager, as did a lot of kids, and thinks he's the saviour of Israel ever since. :)
Ah that explains it! I admit I had less complimentary theories as to his militant Zionism, a lot less so in fact!
 

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Ken has the answer to the recently discovered telegram:-

[video=youtube;M81xdVZVxhg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M81xdVZVxhg[/video]
 

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Ken has the answer to the recently discovered telegram:-

[video=youtube;M81xdVZVxhg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M81xdVZVxhg[/video]
Are you saying he is wrong?
 

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Are you saying he is wrong?
Not the first time Ken Livingstone has regurgitated dogma from that old Labour party staple - the 1983 book 'Zionism in the Age of the Dictators' by that unrepentent Trotsyite, Marxist, and general lunatic, Lenni Brenner.

Of course Livingstone is a living fossil from the decades when there was a special relationship between the Labour party and the Soviet Communists (who were vehemently 'anti-Zionist' :roll:).

Remember the British Labour Party envisioned a Soviet-style system in Britain - with the Party General Secretary — not the MPs’ leader — at the top. And when it became clear by the late 70's that they had effectively lost the cold war, they then became active with the Western left’s ‘peace campaigns’ and 'anti-missile' movements in the early 1980s, which of course were manipulated and secretly orchestrated from Moscow (according to the tranche of Soviet secret documents, obtained by Vladimir Bukovsky).

Livingstone's veneer of having moved on beyond the ideology of those times sure displays a chink or two now and again.
 
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Speaking of massacres don't forget Sharon was personally responsible for these:

Noam Chomsky: Sabra & Shatila Massacre That Forced Sharon's Ouster Recalls Worst of Jewish Pogroms

Then-Defense Minister Ariel Sharon was forced to resign after a special Israeli investigative panel declared him to be "personally responsible" for the massacre.

He was severely punished.:confused:

https://www.democracynow.org/2014/1/13/noam_chomsky_sabra_shatila_massacre_that

Israeli hegemony in the Levant.


BTW Neither Sharon nor those who carried out the massacres have ever been punished for their horrendous crimes.
 

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Noam Chomsky: Sabra & Shatila Massacre That Forced Sharon's Ouster Recalls Worst of Jewish Pogroms
Sorry, what was the connection there?

We were talking about Ken Livingstone quoting dogma from a radical Trotskyite writer very very selective with the facts he presents, celebrated by the extreme left, and you bring up Noam Chomsky?

Ah yes, I see it now. Sure how could I have missed it. :)
 

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A telegram from Heinrich Himmler to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem has been found in the archives of Israel’s National Library.

Believed to have been sent in 1943, it contains a promise by Hitler’s deputy to Haj Amin al-Husseini that the German Reich will stand behind the Arabs of Palestine and support their struggle against “Jewish intruders.”

Published on the library website on Wednesday, the telegraph notes that the struggle against world Jewry has been a principle of the German National Socialists from the start, and that the regime has always followed “with particular sympathy,” the struggle of “freedom-loving Arabs,” especially those in Palestine battling the Jews.

“The joint recognition of the enemy and the struggle together against it are what build the solid basis between the National Socialists of Greater Germany and freedom-loving Muslims of the world,” Himmler wrote.

The telegram concludes with the SS chief sending the Mufti his warm greetings on the “unhappy” anniversary of the Balfour Declaration and best wishes for the continuation of the struggle.
In rediscovered telegram, Himmler offers Jerusalem's Mufti help against 'Jewish intruders' | The Times of Israel
In actual fact this telegram hasn't been just found in any meaningful sense. It was referenced in the German political scientist Klaus Gensicke 2007 book The Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazis translated into english in 2011. The telegram reads in english;-

On November 2, 1943 the Mufti received a telegram from Heinrich Himmler stating:

The National Socialist Movement of Greater Germany has ever since its emergence devoted itself to the war against World Jewry. For this very reason it has always followed with particular sympathy the struggle of the freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against the Jewish invaders. Knowledge of the enemy and common struggle against him form the solid basis of the natural alliance between National Socialist Germany and freedom-loving Muslims in the entire world. With this in mind, I send you, on this anniversary of the disastrous Balfour Declaration, my most cordial greetings and wishes for the successful accomplishment of your struggle to its certain ultimate victory.
In reality Hitler had no real love for the Arabs, calling them " painted apes longing for the lash ".
 

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Not the first time Ken Livingstone has regurgitated dogma from that old Labour party staple - the 1983 book 'Zionism in the Age of the Dictators' by that unrepentent Trotsyite, Marxist, and general lunatic, Lenni Brenner.

Of course Livingstone is a living fossil from the decades when there was a special relationship between the Labour party and the Soviet Communists (who were vehemently 'anti-Zionist' :roll:).

Remember the British Labour Party envisioned a Soviet-style system in Britain - with the Party General Secretary — not the MPs’ leader — at the top. And when it became clear by the late 70's that they had effectively lost the cold war, they then became active with the Western left’s ‘peace campaigns’ and 'anti-missile' movements in the early 1980s, which of course were manipulated and secretly orchestrated from Moscow (according to the tranche of Soviet secret documents, obtained by Vladimir Bukovsky).

Livingstone's veneer of having moved on beyond the ideology of those times sure displays a chink or two now and again.
The Russians have always been despite or rather because their bloody history of fighting off aggressors a peace loving people. Of course they supported people in the West who were opposed to Washington's aggressive Cold War just as of course they support the voices of peace and friendship now. I don't see anything sinister in that.

The British Labour Party envisioned no such thing but rather the Conservatives and Liberals fading out of existence as Socialism took root. Livingstone was one of those primarily responsible for wedding the LP to "Social Liberalism" (with it's strong Christian Socialist history it used to be very "Culturally Conservative") which the Communist Party was less than favourable to.
 

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Not the first time Ken Livingstone has regurgitated dogma from that old Labour party staple - the 1983 book 'Zionism in the Age of the Dictators' by that unrepentent Trotsyite, Marxist, and general lunatic, Lenni Brenner.

Of course Livingstone is a living fossil from the decades when there was a special relationship between the Labour party and the Soviet Communists (who were vehemently 'anti-Zionist' :roll:).

Remember the British Labour Party envisioned a Soviet-style system in Britain - with the Party General Secretary — not the MPs’ leader — at the top. And when it became clear by the late 70's that they had effectively lost the cold war, they then became active with the Western left’s ‘peace campaigns’ and 'anti-missile' movements in the early 1980s, which of course were manipulated and secretly orchestrated from Moscow (according to the tranche of Soviet secret documents, obtained by Vladimir Bukovsky).

Livingstone's veneer of having moved on beyond the ideology of those times sure displays a chink or two now and again.
A zionazi calling someone a lunatic is a great compliment.
 

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In reality Hitler had no real love for the Arabs, calling them " painted apes longing for the lash ".
Ah come on, that was you who said that, wasn't it?
 

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Ah come on, that was you who said that, wasn't it?
"painted half-apes that ought to feel the whip". Mein Kampf.

I don't know what he meant by the painted bit.
 

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Ken Livingstone and the Primacy of Jewish Suffering

Not the first time Ken Livingstone has regurgitated dogma from that old Labour party staple - the 1983 book 'Zionism in the Age of the Dictators' by that unrepentent Trotsyite, Marxist, and general lunatic, Lenni Brenner.

Of course Livingstone is a living fossil from the decades when there was a special relationship between the Labour party and the Soviet Communists (who were vehemently 'anti-Zionist' :roll:).

Remember the British Labour Party envisioned a Soviet-style system in Britain - with the Party General Secretary — not the MPs’ leader — at the top. And when it became clear by the late 70's that they had effectively lost the cold war, they then became active with the Western left’s ‘peace campaigns’ and 'anti-missile' movements in the early 1980s, which of course were manipulated and secretly orchestrated from Moscow (according to the tranche of Soviet secret documents, obtained by Vladimir Bukovsky).

Livingstone's veneer of having moved on beyond the ideology of those times sure displays a chink or two now and again.
For Karen Pollock, a true Holocaust industry apparatchik, truth and historicity or any other recognised value are all subservient to Jewish sensitivities. For Karen Pollock and the Holocaust Educational Trust, only what is Jewish is to be embraced - it is the universal which is the enemy.

But Ken Livingstone deals in the universal. He has been telling the truth. His vision of the Holocaust is accurate and consistent with scholarly work, both Zionist and revisionist.

So Livingstone’s crime is obvious. Refusing to subscribe to the primacy of Jewish suffering, Livingstone, an old-style Lefty, aims at the universal, in this case, the truth.

So the question we need to ask ourselves is, why does the Labour Party now subscribe to the primacy of Jewish suffering? When and why did the Labour Party drift away from ethics, truth, the universal and the worker?


Ken Livingstone and the Primacy of Jewish Suffering
 
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Lol! Now his son gets to speak also...whats wrong with AIPAC...approving certain types of holocaust deniers (Like his father),and now approving anti semitism?
The far right extremist spreads antiSemitic messaging and incites against anyone who disagrees with him.
He also has no official capacity beyond being the PMs son and working for a far right group (Shurat Hadin) that targets BDS advocates.

Yair Netanyahu to speak at AIPAC youth reception in Washington
 

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It's wrong that holocaust deniers and those anti semites are promoted and supported by the zionists.
What is their excuse....it goes far deeper than false videos,false photos,chutzpah,hypocrites,lies,hasbara,ect.
In essence,it's plain racism and fascism.... and they like to advertise it.
 

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How desperate is Netanyahu to get re-elected?...and who will continue to suffer from his corruption,racism and criminality?
It won't be on a par with the thread title and his holocaust denial....but surely he will find someone to blame.
 

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"painted half-apes that ought to feel the whip". Mein Kampf.

I don't know what he meant by the painted bit.
Where is that in "My Struggle" (putting it in German is dramatic but some would say immature also)? I googled and only found the quote on Zionist sites as well as one Mizrahi Post-Zionist one.
 


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