Paramilitaries on O'Connell Street

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Anyone? Anyone at all???

What authority did the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, have to attack the 32 county Irish Republic on June 28th 1922 - four days after the 'Pact' election votes were counted on June 24th - and suppress the real 32 county Dail Eireann two days before it was scheduled to meet to discuss the results of the 'Pact' election and dissolve on June 30th, and to form the new (3rd) 32 county Dail Eireann on July 1st. at 12 PM?
Nope, you're in a minority of one. The Defence Forces are the legitimate armed forces of Ireland.
 


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Who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???
That's easy!

The true successors to the men and women of 1916 are the elected representatives to Dail Eireann, and the Governments formed by that parliament. They have, over the past century built upon the legacy of 1916 to built a vibrant, prosperous and diverse country. That process will continue ro develop and may one day include re-unification with Northern Ireland, but only with the consent of the majority in Northern Ireland. This is what the people of Ireland (North and South) have decided in a democratic exercise.

Anyone who seeks, by way of arms, to derail that agreement is a traitor.

See, wasn't that easy?
 

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Nope, you're in a minority of one. The Defence Forces are the legitimate armed forces of Ireland.
Tell the to the British army up the road from Dublin fool.

Still waiting for you to put up or shut up - who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???
 

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That's easy!

The true successors to the men and women of 1916 are the elected representatives to Dail Eireann, and the Governments formed by that parliament. They have, over the past century built upon the legacy of 1916 to built a vibrant, prosperous and diverse country. That process will continue ro develop and may one day include re-unification with Northern Ireland, but only with the consent of the majority in Northern Ireland. This is what the people of Ireland (North and South) have decided in a democratic exercise.

Anyone who seeks, by way of arms, to derail that agreement is a traitor.

See, wasn't that easy?
Dail 26 counties is obviously not Dail Eireann - the clue for the clueless such as yourself is in the name.
 

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Anyone? Anyone at all???

What authority did the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, have to attack the 32 county Irish Republic on June 28th 1922 - four days after the 'Pact' election votes were counted on June 24th - and suppress the real 32 county Dail Eireann two days before it was scheduled to meet to discuss the results of the 'Pact' election and dissolve on June 30th, and to form the new (3rd) 32 county Dail Eireann on July 1st. at 12 PM?
 

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Tell the to the British army up the road from Dublin fool.

Still waiting for you to put up or shut up - who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???
You have proved nothing. You have provided a series of dates and events and tagged your own conclusion on to the end of that list.

That is why you have so angrily failed to provide a single credible source to back your claim. Laughable.
 

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You have proved nothing. You have provided a series of dates and events and tagged your own conclusion on to the end of that list.

That is why you have so angrily failed to provide a single credible source to back your claim. Laughable.
Only an idiot such as yourself would attempt to suggest that the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, did not destroy the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23.

Then again - what would an English troll know about Irish history - the very fact you are disputing what happened shows what a idiot you are.
 

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Only an idiot such as yourself would attempt to suggest that the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, did not destroy the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???

Then again - what would an English troll know about Irish history - the very fact you are disputing what happened shows what a idiot you are.
I did not ask you to restate your opinion for the umpteenth time - I asked you to show the credible support for this opinion.

Who shares this idiotic opinion with you, genius. No one, you are a crank minority of one.
 

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I did not ask you to restate your opinion for the umpteenth time - I asked you to show the credible support for this opinion.

Who shares this idiotic opinion with you, genius. No one, you are a crank minority of one.
The fact that you would ask for support for something that happened and no one denies happened, just shows what a moron you really are.

You don't even realise what a moron you are because you are an English troll and know nothing about the subject matter - no Irish people disputes the proxy war of 1922/23.
 

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No, I'm not going to indulge you.

There is only one Government of Ireland, led by Leo Varadkar, and only one army Oglaigh na hEireann:
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But if you disagree, tell us who you think is the legitimate leader of Ireland.
You won't because you can't.

The renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces are obviously not Oglaigh na hEireann - the charlatan Defence Forces misappropriated the title Oglaigh na hEireann in 1924.

The 'DEFENCE FORCES TEMPORARY PROVISIONS ACT, 1923' came into affect on the 1st Oct 1924 - but was retrospectively backdated to Jan 21st 1922 (Cottrell, p 23) because that was when the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces made its first public appearance.

The name Óglaigh Na hÉireann was misappropriated by the usurper Free State on that date under an 'Act' vested in England's Governor-General in its 'Southern Ireland' State on behalf of an English King.

There is only one Óglaigh Na hÉireann and that is the army of the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 - NOT the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 during 1922/23.
 

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The fact that you would ask for support for something that happened and no one denies happened, just shows what a moron you really are.
You are coming across as quite thick and childish.

No one denied those events happened. What no one agrees with is the your personal conclusion that the DF are illegitimate.

That's the bit you have to show support for. The bit about the DF being illegitimate. And you are squirming because you can't.

In reality I know you are in a minority of one - I'm just enjoying watch you squirm.
 

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You are coming across as quite thick and childish.

No one denied those events happened. What no one agrees with is the your personal conclusion that the DF are illegitimate.

That's the bit you have to show support for. The bit about the DF being illegitimate. And you are squirming because you can't.

In reality I know you are in a minority of one - I'm just enjoying watch you squirm.
Here moron - what's with the personal conclusion???

It's an historical fact - one which any educated person or historian would not deny.

The Irish Republican Army are the army of the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 - the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces are obviously not the successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic.

The clue for morons like you is that the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, destroyed the proclaimed 1916 Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23.
 

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Here moron - what's with the personal conclusion???

It's an historical fact - one which any educated person or historian would not deny.

The Irish Republican Army are the army of the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 - the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces are obviously not the successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic.

The clue for morons like you is that the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, destroyed the proclaimed 1916 Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23.
That's just you restating your opinion and your reasons for holding that opinion. That is not what has been asked.

Once again, provide links that show credible others sharing your opinion that the DF are illegitimate - you can't, because no one else thinks that.

You are a minority of one. That's my point, and the more you avoid showing us anyone else making the same claim, the more you prove me right.
 

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That's just you restating your opinion and your reasons for holding that opinion. That is not what has been asked.

Once again, provide links that show credible others sharing your opinion that the DF are illegitimate - you can't, because no one else thinks that.

You are a minority of one. That's my point, and the more you avoid showing us anyone else making the same claim, the more you prove me right.
It's not an opinion moron, or an interpretation of the fact - it happened.

Who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???
 

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So - what authority did the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, have to attack the 32 county Irish Republic on June 28th 1922 - four days after the 'Pact' election votes were counted on June 24th - and suppress the real 32 county Dail Eireann two days before it was scheduled to meet to discuss the results of the 'Pact' election and dissolve on June 30th, and to form the new (3rd) 32 county Dail Eireann on July 1st. at 12 PM?

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So - who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???

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So - who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???

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Again, no links to any support for your claim.

In that case, after what must be now more than two dozen requests you have avoided, your claims can be dismissed as the immature opinion of one.

The people of Ireland recognize the DF as the legitimate forces of Ireland - you are a lone crank.
 

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Again, no links to any support for your claim.

In that case, after what must be now more than two dozen requests you have avoided, your claims can be dismissed as the immature opinion of one.

The people of Ireland recognize the DF as the legitimate forces of Ireland - you are a lone crank.
Idiot - the period leaflet gives a date, the 16th of March 1922. That's a link moron - look it up in Hansard.

Birkenhead the Chancellor of your own country at that time is on record mocking the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, for waging a war against the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann (the legal and legitimate army of the Irish Republic), and for destroying the proclaimed 1916 Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of England.

So moron - who are the true successors to the men and women of 1916 who proclaimed Ireland a Republic - the Irish Republican Army/Óglaigh na hÉireann - or the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the proclaimed 1916 32 county Irish Republic on behalf of, and with the help of, our enemy England during 1922/23???

You are a particularly stupid English troll - posting about things Irish that you clearly know nothing about. And then being the moron you are, you demand proof of an event that happened and that no one is denying, other than your stupid self.
 
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There is only one Óglaigh Na hÉireann and that is the army of the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 - NOT the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 during 1922/23.
That is a delusion. You are talking about an imaginary army, an imaginary Republic.

Do you have imaginary friends too?

I think perhaps you need professional help
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You won't because you can't.

The renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces are obviously not Oglaigh na hEireann - the charlatan Defence Forces misappropriated the title Oglaigh na hEireann in 1924.

The 'DEFENCE FORCES TEMPORARY PROVISIONS ACT, 1923' came into affect on the 1st Oct 1924 - but was retrospectively backdated to Jan 21st 1922 (Cottrell, p 23) because that was when the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces made its first public appearance.

The name Óglaigh Na hÉireann was misappropriated by the usurper Free State on that date under an 'Act' vested in England's Governor-General in its 'Southern Ireland' State on behalf of an English King.

There is only one Óglaigh Na hÉireann and that is the army of the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 - NOT the renegade Free State army (deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles) that are now called the Defence Forces, who destroyed the Irish Republic as proclaimed in 1916 during 1922/23.
All utter tosh (as usual) but you didn't answer my question - who is the leader of your imaginary Republic? Who is el Presidente?
 


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