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Pat Rabbite minister for communications - thinks free speach is bad for democracy.


constitutionus

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least thats the impression ya get if you read his latest tirade.

Rabbitte accuses media of damaging democracy by 'denigrating' politics - The Irish Times - Fri, Jan 04, 2013

funnily enough he wasnt shy at dishing out the doom porn when he was in oppostion. yet now a year in power later and apparently not only is his former activities considered bad form.

itll lead us to a dictatorship !

he only hinted at the latter in the times article linked above, but the poor lad lost the plot completely on newstalks lunchtime show today warning us that him and his being held to account may lead to a "strong man" coming forward and lamenting the patently ridiculous postion he's in where "anyone" can stand for election (ya know, like himself)

TBH im somewhat surprised this hasnt been posted about earlier but it was such a bizarre outburst from the man that i had to slap up a thread on it myself.

i'd advise anyone to listen to the pod cast of that show as clearly something is getting to pat. for those conscerened its circa an hour into the show, and i have to ask the question.

is a bloke with these opnions of the mainstream media FIT to be the minister for communications ?

what would it mean for us on the internet as he seems to be turning on his "friends"

one of the journos was joking at myles dungan (covering for pat kenny) earlier today that he'll have to watch himself least he upset the man. seeing as this is the same pat rabbite that lamented the loss of "defference" that the establishment got in the past maybe its not such a joke ?
 

still-life

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Unbelievable - I had to listen a second time to make sure I hadn't misheard. His implication that criticism of politicians could lead to a dictatorship seemed to fly in the face of common sense.
 

The Owl

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He's only annoyed because he wanted to be the dictator. And believe, in his little circle, he is.
 

Nemesiscorporation

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least thats the impression ya get if you read his latest tirade.

Rabbitte accuses media of damaging democracy by 'denigrating' politics - The Irish Times - Fri, Jan 04, 2013

funnily enough he wasnt shy at dishing out the doom porn when he was in oppostion. yet now a year in power later and apparently not only is his former activities considered bad form.

itll lead us to a dictatorship !

he only hinted at the latter in the times article linked above, but the poor lad lost the plot completely on newstalks lunchtime show today warning us that him and his being held to account may lead to a "strong man" coming forward and lamenting the patently ridiculous postion he's in where "anyone" can stand for election (ya know, like himself)

TBH im somewhat surprised this hasnt been posted about earlier but it was such a bizarre outburst from the man that i had to slap up a thread on it myself.

i'd advise anyone to listen to the pod cast of that show as clearly something is getting to pat. for those conscerened its circa an hour into the show, and i have to ask the question.

is a bloke with these opnions of the mainstream media FIT to be the minister for communications ?

what would it mean for us on the internet as he seems to be turning on his "friends"

one of the journos was joking at myles dungan (covering for pat kenny) earlier today that he'll have to watch himself least he upset the man. seeing as this is the same pat rabbite that lamented the loss of "defference" that the establishment got in the past maybe its not such a joke ?

Basically Rabbite has more or less admitted he has no understanding of freedom of the press, free speech and parliamentary democracy.

I also see that Rabbite has said he is proud of the plan to get 100mb broadband to all Irish schools when in other countries they are now upping that to 1gig. As usual proud to be the most backward.

As for his nonsense about windfarms. He wants them on land instead of out at sea right out to the continental shelf, where they generate most power. Also at sea they can be used as scaffolds for large scale fishing projects giving salmon, mussels, etc.

As for his statements on energy efficiency. The last couple of years no pensioner I know of in Donegal has got a grant to add in insulation or double glazing to reduce energy costs. They have all been turned down.

Has there every been a politician voted into the Dail who actually has any intelligence or do they all fail upwards into the job without exception?
 

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I actually like the fact that Rabbite isn't afraid to go 'off script' and speak his mind.

It's just unfortunate that his mind appears to contain an increasing amount of reactionary nonsense.
 

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Pat Rabbitte on the Green Party, April 9, 2009

Deputy Pat Rabbitte: Deputy Gogarty, who is a committee chairman, created an event of considerable moment when the news came from the Green Party conference that he was going to resign as party spokesperson on education.

I did not know there was a party spokesperson on education in the Green Party and I certainly did not know that it was Deputy Gogarty. The remarkable thing, however, is that he did not forego the €20,000 stipend that came with his committee chairmanship.

Some Deputies say, “Deputy Gogarty is a nice fellow, slightly eccentric. He rolls around on the floor at public meetings and asks Senator Frances Fitzgerald to tickle his belly, and people give him some indulgence for this”. I do not believe he is daft, rather he is the biggest actor in this House. He has been getting away with it.

If one wants to go back a little further, what about the Minister of State, Deputy Sargent? I have read newspaper articles recently arguing that the reason for this country’s casual acquaintance with ethics is its Catholic ethos and concepts such as the firm purpose of amendment. While the Minister of State is not a member of the majority faith, he is more Jesuitical than those who adhere to it. This is the man who said he would not lead the Green Party into government with Fianna Fáil.

Although he did not do so, he got the Minister, Deputy Gormley, to lead his party into government, while he went in the back door and re-emerged as the Minister of State with responsibility for parsnips and organic tomatoes. That is the record of the Minister of State, Deputy Sargent. The Minister, Deputy Gormley, has a decision to make if he wants to take the moral high ground. What will he do on the decision not to pay the Christmas bonus?

He will have an opportunity to vote in the House on the few bob that is paid to social welfare recipients to make Christmas possible for them. We will see what the man who arranged with his predecessor, the Minister of State, Deputy Dick Roche, to make the decision on the M3 on the day before he entered government, does now on the Christmas bonus. What is the biggest decision this Government has made since it came into office? Without doubt, it was the €440 billion underwriting of the reckless behaviour of untruthful bankers. Where was the Minister, Deputy Gormley?

He was asleep in bed with his telephone switched off. A garda had to wake him up to tell him the two Brians had been up all night and had mortgaged the future of the country to save the banking system and, as the Taoiseach would have it and I do not question his motivation, to save the economy. It was a Monday night and the Minister had given instructions that his bicycle clips and helmet be left out for the following morning because when the cameras are present for Cabinet meetings it is important that he cycles to work, even though two Garda cars, one carrying the Minister’s lunch box of Ryvita and tomato, follow him as he does so.

The Minister had to be raised early that morning because he could not be found when the time came to make his decision.

A party that does not stand for anything will stand for nothing.

That is the position the Green Party has arrived at and we will see now what its Deputies do on the Christmas bonus and other matters. For too long, the party has been flying beneath the radar. It is so preoccupied with saving the planet and other loftier issues that it has nothing to do with the state of the economy. We will see what it does but its performance until now has been lamentable. I note the Minister of State, Deputy Sargent, has let the Taoiseach know that he is available to switch to another ministry. At this time of depression, that news must give the country a bit of a lift.

Politics » Rabbitte Throws a Punch at the Greens
 

Thady Quill

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I actually like the fact that Rabbite isn't afraid to go 'off script' and speak his mind.

It's just unfortunate that his mind appears to contain an increasing amount of reactionary nonsense.
When ever I see him on VB he gets very tetchy at being contradicted, and cuts across other speakers. Discussion is not a word he understands.
 

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Rabbitte may be wrong about this, I'm not convinced that the Media are "denigrating" politics, but I bet he can spell the word "speech".......
 

White Horse

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Sensible stuff from Rabitte, though likely to attract him more vitriol from the unthinking and baying doom merchants.
 

Sister Mercedes

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And there was I thinking it was incompetent and corrupt politicians who were denigrating politics.
 

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OP is a complete misrepresentation of what Rabbitte said.
 

hiding behind a poster

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And there was I thinking it was incompetent and corrupt politicians who were denigrating politics.
Competence is obviously a subjective analysis, but name the current TDs you believe to be corrupt.
 

Frank Galton

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Whatever about democracy, free speech is painful for those of us who like proper spelling. Not just this thread either.
 

Cellach

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A man who on two separate occasions has admitted making promises he knows he may not be able to keep and justified it on the basis that "he was trying to win an election" accuses the media of denigrating politics. Will wonders ever cease?
 

Aindriu

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Sensible stuff from Rabitte, though likely to attract him more vitriol from the unthinking and baying doom merchants.
How so? Do you not agree to the right of free speech? What next? Internet censoring a la China perhaps?
 

jpc

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Accountability and defending your actions is coming a bit uncomfortable for Pat &co less than 2 years into their term of office.

And the biggest denigration of politics has been carried out by the politicians, and their expediency over all other considerations attitude to dealing with issues .

Look in the mirror Pat!
 
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