Paul Murphy has left the Socialist Party

Levellers

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I have no horse in this race, but thats simply not true.
My statement is absolutely true. Sinn Fein never had a policy of don't pay. Individual members may have said they wouldn't pay or even advocated don't pay but that wasn't party policy.
 


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Jarree said, They did not agree with a water charge, but as it was law they will pay it. Just like Posh boy Paulie Murphy paid up when he sold his pad in south Dublin to go live in The middleclass enclave of Kingswood, in Clondalkin.
Of course Adams said he would pay. He is very law abiding person and that's probably the reason he never joined the IRA as that was illegal under state law.
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Of course Adams said he would pay. He is very law abiding person and that's probably the reason he never joined the IRA as that was illegal under state law.
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The Green Party did much better in South Dublin than in West Dublin. And on South Dublin County Council, which covers a large amount of both South and West Dublin, that's very clear. The further from South Dublin and into West Dublin you go, the worse the Greens do.
The Green vote is consistent with the growth of green bonds in the financial markets: Green bonds reach $100 billion milestone - Climate Action (2017) and the aims and objectives of financial investors: “We need to reach $1 trillion in green bonds by 2020”, which is what I implied already:

'Green bond' market leaves wildlife behind | Financial Times

'Capital-markets instruments designed to improve the natural environment are now more than a decade old. The World Bank issued the first “green” bonds in 2008, and the market has since grown steadily, expected to top $250bn in issuance by the end of 2019, according to the Climate Bonds Initiative.
Which essentially means that more of the Business Class are investing in a Green future, which is a good thing in theory. However, the emergence of what O'Neill defines as the

Green Neo-Aristocracy
may come at the expense of undermining genuine conservation and environmental groups and movements whose primary concern is in non-profit issues and topics, which is what the Financial Times article implied when it suggested that high-end green energy and technology products had left the wildlife behind on the markets:

But amid all this accelerating activity, the planet’s wildlife — on land and in the oceans — has been mostly left behind.'
 

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Anyone hear Murphy on Newstalk this morning going on about his green new deal, and how there is no need for ordinary working people to bear any burden for climate change mitigation measures? If we listen to him we'll get a 4 day working week with the same pay, and it will be paid for by the fossil fuel industry, who won't be selling any fossil fuels :) It's worth a listen due to the breath taking scale of his shamelessness. I don't think the guy is stupid (though ripping off the AOC green new deal concept shows a fairly limited ability to create ideas), but he sure thinks that the people who vote for him are stupid. The presenters were so gobsmacked they didn't even question what he was saying.
 

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Anyone hear Murphy on Newstalk this morning going on about his green new deal, and how there is no need for ordinary working people to bear any burden for climate change mitigation measures? If we listen to him we'll get a 4 day working week with the same pay, and it will be paid for by the fossil fuel industry, who won't be selling any fossil fuels :) It's worth a listen due to the breath taking scale of his shamelessness. I don't think the guy is stupid (though ripping off the AOC green new deal concept shows a fairly limited ability to create ideas), but he sure thinks that the people who vote for him are stupid. The presenters were so gobsmacked they didn't even question what he was saying.
Hard to believe that poor SF allowed Murphy to dictate their policy on Irish Water!
 

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Anyone hear Murphy on Newstalk this morning going on about his green new deal, and how there is no need for ordinary working people to bear any burden for climate change mitigation measures? If we listen to him we'll get a 4 day working week with the same pay, and it will be paid for by the fossil fuel industry, who won't be selling any fossil fuels :) It's worth a listen due to the breath taking scale of his shamelessness. I don't think the guy is stupid (though ripping off the AOC green new deal concept shows a fairly limited ability to create ideas), but he sure thinks that the people who vote for him are stupid. The presenters were so gobsmacked they didn't even question what he was saying.
less green houses gases from day off surely?
 


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