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Paul Williams - gutter journalism?


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Very interesting piece here from Village Magazine:

Naming and faming, not naming and shaming.

It pretty much sums up what I think myself about this hack - from the article:


The young offenders highlighted the ways in which Paul Williams glorifies gangland criminal, “You know you are up there with the best if Paul Williams calls you a ‘crime boss’ or gives you a nickname, that makes people more afraid of you. That can’t be a bad thing in the business of crime. He makes us out to be like the mafia godfathers – most lads love it”. They revealed how Williams’ crime writing acts, albeit unintentionally, as a source of encouragement towards criminality. “When Williams writes about guns, robberies and shootings, it’s exciting. Everyone wants a piece of the action. His books don’t turn me off crime they make me want to be part of it. Why would I want to go on the straight? It’s boring in comparison”.
I've always avoided any publications that Williams writes in like the plaque, but, from time to time, I have read some of his drivel and it makes for pretty depressing reading. What do other people think about his form of 'journalism'? Is it, as the article suggest, making the life of a criminal more glamourous although whats glamourous about being shot in the stomach and having to wear a colostomy bag is beyond me? Proving the point, I suppose that the vast majority of those involved in crime are people who fail at whatever they do, hence, jail or death is inevitable.

Me, I find Mr. Williams and his career based on crocodile and faux outrage to be base and gutteral.
 


sauntersplash

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Very interesting piece here from Village Magazine:

Naming and faming, not naming and shaming.

It pretty much sums up what I think myself about this hack - from the article:




I've always avoided any publications that Williams writes in like the plaque, but, from time to time, I have read some of his drivel and it makes for pretty depressing reading. What do other people think about his form of 'journalism'? Is it, as the article suggest, making the life of a criminal more glamourous although whats glamourous about being shot in the stomach and having to wear a colostomy bag is beyond me? Proving the point, I suppose that the vast majority of those involved in crime are people who fail at whatever they do, hence, jail or death is inevitable.

Me, I find Mr. Williams and his career based on crocodile and faux outrage to be base and gutteral.
I agree 100%. But you could say this about the vast majority of journalism. It's just misery porn.
 

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There are a few Irish journalists crossing over from commentator to celebrity. I think you have to view their output in that light. Anything they write should be viewed in the context of entertainment rather than news.

Brendan "Smarty McBallsy" O'Connor, Kevin Myres, and Paul Williams are all branching into TV.

But lets not overstate the problem. Williams can be seen as the unofficaal mouthpiece of the establishment, and objectionable as his self-glorification is, nothing he writes makes a scumbag do anything that he wouldn't have done anyway.

The criminal mind is well known to be full of retrospective justifications.
 
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It's just misery porn.
Its as good a name as any for the type of drivel being lapped up.

Mr Williams, from what I have seen of him, seems to be very taken with his position as the official crime hack according to the criminal.
Its probably very exciting for him but what about when he crosses one of these criminals who are so far gone in drugs and probably mental disorders that killing a high profile journalist isnt seen as a great deal?

Will we get the same nonsense again about how he was a crusader? How he was 'brave'? Or will we get some honest reporting about how he started to believe his own hype?

So long as we dont spend any state funds protecting this moron.
 

borntorum

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Yeah, he's the worst. But he's not the only one at it. His former employers in the Sunday World yesterday had some 'exclusive' about some knackers from the Dundon family saying something on youtube (I didnt read the article, just saw the front page in the newsagent). Im sure the people featured were delighted with themselves.
 

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Paul 'The Poison Pen' Williams! is that name sensational enough to make it into the world!
 

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What is particularly difficult to stomach is the way he is treated with reverence by various broadcasters ( such as Tubridy, Kenny and Eamonn Keane ) who should know better than to allow his self-serving tittle tattle to go unchallenged.
 

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I've always called him HMV Williams, as in His Master's Voice, since he always seems to echo the cops point of view. Funny how this fearless sleuth completely failed to notice the smell coming from Donegal over the years, isn't it?
Along with his old pal Jim Cusack, he sees the hand of the Shinners behind everything and there are, of course, always sinister elements.
Once a PD....
 

toughbutfair

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I reckon the thugs love being written about, makes them feel like Al Capone. They should be referred to as "knackers" or "scumbags". People have always been fascinated with crime, since well before Jack the Ripper so I'm sure it sells.
 

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Garda PR jester

Williams ego continues to be allowed run riot across Irelands corporate media - the fact that he is merely a loud-mouthed talentless extension of the Garda PR dept appears to have escaped the attention of what passes for journalism in this country:rolleyes:
 

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My mother (the poor dear) loves his stuff. She loves all that murky crime stuff. She sits up all night watching FBI files on discovery too (makes me wonder about the credibility of anything Discovery broadcast). It all entertainment though. It's like The Neverending Story where she believes this stuff is real and therefore she is somehow a victim in waiting or at leat he can now make an educated judgement on the neighbours strange behaviour.
 

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I think to his credit he goes out to expose a lot of these criminals that most simply wouldnt have the stones to do. But thought his documentary on the Shell to Sea Campaigners was absolutely awful
 

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I think to his credit he goes out to expose a lot of these criminals that most simply wouldnt have the stones to do. But thought his documentary on the Shell to Sea Campaigners was absolutely awful
You could do the same he is spoon fed by the police
 

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He kind of reminds me of the journalist character Wayne Gayle in Natural Born Killers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gale

Gayle is....A vain, obnoxious, opportunistic narcissist, Gale has nothing but contempt for his audience ("Repetition works; Do you think the morons out there in zombie land actually remember anything?") and does his job only for perks such as fame and money.

Ratings for American Maniacs go through the roof when Gale focuses the show on Mickey and Mallory Knox. He turns the two killers into international celebrities, all the while becoming incredibly wealthy and raising his own celebrity profile. When they are caught by Jack Scagnetti, he helps turn the detective into a star, conveniently ignoring the fact that Scagnetti is completely corrupt and just as violent as the Knoxes.
A little OTT unkind to Williams perhaps he is not THIS bad, though there are some striking similiarities - the 'celebrity' status of the journalist, his obsession with glamourising the killers, narcissism, cultivation of tough guy persona... works with... corrupt cops!?
 

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Another young man said, “If Williams cared he would go hard on the gardaí for not arresting the boys who are killing the innocent people. Wouldn’t he? Instead he just keeps the pigs sweet”.
And maybe that's the point...
 

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The advert is bizarre "We won't stop until they stop."

Jees Paul, what are you going to write about then?

The problem with Williams is that he clearly revels in what he's doing. There doesn't seem to be much reflection. Acknowledgement of the victims is always something of an aside to his reporting. That said what he does is as old as the hills, good old fashioned salacious masturbation over the activities of society's ultramontanes.

In fairnness RTE's Paul Reynolds gives an object lesson in how to cover this beat. Sure it's dramatic, but you don't have to get down and wallow in it.
 

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Paul Williams just wants to expose criminal masterminds and their activity's. He is not a lowlife bottom feeder that peddles fear, sensationalism and hysteria.
 

Cailleach

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'Paul Williams just wants to expose criminal masterminds and their activity's. He is not a lowlife bottom feeder that peddles fear, sensationalism and hysteria.'

God help your sense, you brainwashed g******e! (unless you're not as adept as you might like with the auld irony)
 

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