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Payment of mortgage ceases until the case is resolved for the 200 people have filed a lawsuit against their mortgage lender.


Lassie

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Payment of mortgage ceases until the case is resolved for the 200 people have filed a lawsuit against their mortgage lender.

This movement has caught my eye recently. In a nut shell, ordinary folk are suing their banks for their alleged irresponsible lending practices and the stress thereof. They are suing them for €1,000,000 per case. The cost is €138 for taking the case.


Ben Gilroy will be on hand in every single trial. Thus far over 200 people have filed a lawsuit against their mortgage lender. As soon as the lawsuit is in place, you can cease repayments until such time as the matter has been resolved in the courts. All documentation is available from Debtoptions, and they will be with you every step of the way.
https://peopleforeconomicjustice.com/what-is-debtoptions/
 

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Ben Gilroy
Ok, can you really stop making payments or is this part of Bens usual brand of wildly inaccurate interpretations of the law?
 
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He is conning these people. To sue a person for a million euro you need to go high court and if u lose you will have to pay the othersides legal bills and they could be very close to 100,000 so you will lose your house and be bankrupted.
 

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He is conning these people. To sue a person for a million euro you need to go high court and if u lose you will have to pay the othersides legal bills and they could be very close to 100,000 so you will lose your house and be bankrupted.
Its really awful when you think about it, Gilroy is preying on these peoples desperation and end result will be that these people will be left in an even worse position than they started, especially if he starts peddling that freeman crap again.

He's lost every case he ever tried hasn't he? Makes me wonder why he hasn't seen an Isaac Wunder order yet.
 

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Notwithstanding the potential financial consequences, it is the false hope which he provides which really gets me. His guff will cost people more than just legal costs. He should just stop doing what he is doing.
 

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Notwithstanding the potential financial consequences, it is the false hope which he provides which really gets me. His guff will cost people more than just legal costs. He should just stop doing what he is doing.
Exactly. He has presents a simple catch all solution to these people, an easy way out so long as they follow him.

Its criminally irresponsible.
 

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Best for those in mortgage trouble to band together and stop paying. Nothing else will work. Thousands of non-payers would cost millions a month and the ECB would have to take notice.

Fact is the ECB must either print money - more money the longer they leave it - or write down debt on a percentage basis.
 

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On reading the above; Ben Gilroy is accused of:
  • wildly inaccurate interpretations of the law?
  • conning these people
  • preying on these peoples desperation and end result will be that these people will be left in an even worse position than they started
  • it is the false hope which he provides
  • guff will cost people more than just legal costs
  • presents a simple catch all solution to these people
  • criminally irresponsible.
The financiers could be accused of all the above, over the past twelve years. If the law allows people to be loaded with jumbo mortgages: with bankers, auditors, law enforcers and regulators not operating to best professional practices. Then I am at a loss as to why someone should be criticised if by using the law, he can get some justice for these people. I can't see anybody else going out of there way to help the legally financially distressed people of Ireland.

He gives these people hope by fighting their cause. It appears that many other distressed people see no other way out; but suicide. Such people are certainly way down the list of priorities of the political system in the European Union. I would have no doubt that a good legal brain that is not out for his immediate enrichment will find a way out for our indentured jumbo mortgage holders.
 
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Best for those in mortgage trouble to band together and stop paying. Nothing else will work. Thousands of non-payers would cost millions a month and the ECB would have to take notice.

Fact is the ECB must either print money - more money the longer they leave it - or write down debt on a percentage basis.
Won't happen - we as a people don't have the necessary sense of community, and our protest capability has been destroyed by our rush to middle class respectability and wealth.
 

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Interesting interviews from halfway in.[video=youtube;Oku60eE4Szw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Oku60eE4Szw#![/video]
 

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WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Couple of very basic checks people need to conduct before proceeding, caveat emptor:

Only use the services of a trained and fully qualified solicitor - check if the solicitor is registered with the Law Society

Request a copy of the solicitors original professional indemnity insurance schedule - contact the insurance company and double check the policy is active and in force, more importantly get the renewal date and ensure the policy is renewed in the interim period of continuing to engage a solicitors services for the entire duration of the case. This may require annual revalidation on your part if the case is protracted.

What professional indemnity insurance policy do the private individual owner(s) or legally registered company hold that own https://peopleforeconomicjustice.com/?

Who or what legally registered company are the registered owners of the mobile phone contact number disclosed on the website?

Join Debtoptions today. Call 0872565728, check out the Debtoptions Facebook page, or fill out the contact form here on site.
All of the above may be fine but it is essential people carry out these basic checks before parting with any money.

If you experience any obstructions towards the receiving of information around any of the above, then you should reflect upon that circumstance.
 
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Dan_Murphy

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On reading the above; Ben Gilroy is accused of:
  • wildly inaccurate interpretations of the law?
  • conning these people
  • preying on these peoples desperation and end result will be that these people will be left in an even worse position than they started
  • it is the false hope which he provides
  • guff will cost people more than just legal costs
  • presents a simple catch all solution to these people
  • criminally irresponsible.
The financiers could be accused of all the above, over the past twelve years. If the law allows people to be loaded with jumbo mortgages: with bankers, auditors, law enforcers and regulators not operating to best professional practices. Then I am at a loss as to why someone should be criticised if by using the law, he can get some justice for these people. I can't see anybody else going out of there way to help the legally financially distressed people of Ireland.

He gives these people hope by fighting their cause. It appears that many other distressed people see no other way out; but suicide. Such people are certainly way down the list of priorities of the political system in the European Union. I would have no doubt that a good legal brain that is not out for his immediate enrichment will find a way out for our indentured jumbo mortgage holders.
Absolutely, if the bank was criminally reckless in what it lent out (40 year mortgages and so on) then absolutely they should go to court, but Ben Gilroy prefers to take the route that statute law is optional.

Thats a ludicrous argument to bring to court.
 

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A house that was literally hours away from being sold on auction, has just been turned around and Standard Bank has abandoned the whole thing, including their judgment.

The day before Mr Michael Plumstead was about to watch his family home being auctioned, an urgent application was brought before the Port Elizabeth High Court. Among other things, Mr Plumstead (the Applicant) stated the following:

“15. It is the Applicant’s intention to settle the arrears with the lawful holder of this debt.”

The auction was temporarily suspended by the Court… but then suddenly the bank backed down. The entire case was removed and the bank agreed to pay all legal costs. See the attached notice.

Now… why would a bank abandon all their hard work and withdraw a case when the debtor agreed to pay the arrears? Well, look at the words carefully: Mr Plumstead agreed to settle with the “lawful holder of this debt.”

If you read the supporting affidavit of the Plumstead Case on page 19, you will see the securitisation argument. You can view the full document here: http://downloads.newera.org.za/NewERA/PlumsteadCase.pdf.

Once again NewERA maintains the following: If your loan has been securitised, not only has your legal status with the bank changed, but your debt with the bank no longer exists.

If you do not understand this, or believe “so what, the debt must be paid anyway” then think again. It is vital that you listen to these audio interviews to see that in fact all parties have been paid out.

This knowledge can save not just houses, but assets of all kinds. But… you need to research it yourself. Don’t expect a hand-out. It is up to you to learn the truth.

Banks are not being open about securitisation. See for yourself by asking them simple questions like those found here. We are preparing a march to demand this information from the banks. To join the march, either in person or virtually, click here.

This is our chance Awaken. We can wipe clean the slate and begin a new era for South Africans that will set the scene for the rest of the world. All you need to do is see this for yourself. The place to start is by listening to these audio interviews.

Tell the world to join The New Economic Rights Alliance and please sign up for paying membership here, or make a donation here
Victory in South Africa in Mortgage Securitization Fraud!! « Awaken Longford
 

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Best for those in mortgage trouble to band together and stop paying. Nothing else will work. Thousands of non-payers would cost millions a month and the ECB would have to take notice.

Fact is the ECB must either print money - more money the longer they leave it - or write down debt on a percentage basis.
Print!
Print!
Print!
 

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Did you even read the full court judgment. The bank went to sell his house with out informing him so he went to court and proved it did not notify him and that he was willing to pay the loan and because of this the court stopped the sale.

That is all that happened. All the bank now has to do is file a new claim in the court and notify him of it. Then if he does not pay they will be able to sell the house.

All just a bit of spin.
 

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I'm guessing it's a similar scheme to the one outlined in this link

Blank of Ireland 'This Way Out'

I posted a thread on it yesterday. From my understanding it aims to challenge mortgage debt based on the claim that the funds supplied by the bank never existed in the first place. This is going on the author's claim that banks can lend 10 euro for every euro they hold in reserves.
 

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Its really awful when you think about it, Gilroy is preying on these peoples desperation and end result will be that these people will be left in an even worse position than they started, especially if he starts peddling that freeman crap again.

He's lost every case he ever tried hasn't he? Makes me wonder why he hasn't seen an Isaac Wunder order yet.
Can you provide links/details of this or is it bs :confused:
 

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Something tells me there is more to this 'strategy' than Ben Gilroy and Claire Cullinane...
 

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