Phil Shiner, the “scourge of the army”, admitted 18 charges of professional misconduct over his ithe al-Sweady inquiry which cost £23 million.

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Phil Shiner, the “scourge of the army”, admitted 18 charges of professional misconduct over his ithe al-Sweady inquiry which cost £23 million.

Oh surely it can't be true??? :shock2::shock2::shock2:

It seems it is:
One of the country’s most prominent human-rights lawyers faces being struck off after admitting that he was wrong to accuse the army of unlawfully killing and torturing civilians during the Iraq war.

But how could he?:confused:
“Phil Shiner made the lives of soldiers a misery by pursuing false allegations of torture and murder,” Michael Fallon, the defence secretary, said yesterday. “It was on behalf of those soldiers that we complained about Mr Shiner’s actions and finally he has admitted he was reckless and acted without integrity. He should now apologise to the soldiers.”
Gee, d'ya think?:roll:

It gets better though:
In a letter delivered to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal on the eve of yesterday’s hearing, Mr Shiner also admitted making a payment — in breach of professional rules — of £25,000 to an intermediary to obtain instructions from Iraqi clients. At the hearing Mr Shiner acknowledged that his career was over. His letter said that he “accepts that this tribunal must strike him off”.
"Career over"? Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
The lying, hypocritical, greedy, duplicitous creep.

The tribunal was told that Mr Shiner admitted the charge that .....he recklessly “made and personally endorsed allegations that the British Army had unlawfully killed, tortured and mistreated Iraqi civilians, including his clients”.
What a lying, unscrupulous b*stard that man is.

You can read the rest of it here. Mine's a treble by the way!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Oh surely it can't be true??? :shock2::shock2::shock2:

It seems it is:



Gee, d'ya think?:roll:

It gets better though:


"Career over"? Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
The lying, hypocritical, greedy, duplicitous creep.


What a lying, unscrupulous b*stard that man is.

You can read the rest of it here. Mine's a treble by the way!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Why is this in Irish Current Affairs?

On another note, there is a culture in the UK that relates to people pursuing odd agendas for tabloid sales.

You only just had the King of Sting get done for, well, break the law.

Lying and trying to discredit front line soldiers is, by all measures, disgusting.

I do not remember a single soldier in Blair's parliament who voted to be sent over to that hellhole on what turned out to be lies about WMDs.

The fact that those soldiers were being grilled on false charges while Blair was exonerated of actual charges is more an indictment of true British politics than anything else.

If the Government wins, it is due to the Government.
If the Government loses, blame somebody else.

Cough Brexit cough. :roll:
 

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Why is this in Irish Current Affairs?
It's in the United Kingdom forum actually?

On another note, there is a culture in the UK that relates to people pursuing odd agendas for tabloid sales.
Possibly, but this repellent swine's motivation appears to have been a mixture of personal greed and hatred of the Army. He's a Socialist by the way, though obviously of the Champagne variety.

You only just had the King of Sting get done for, well, break the law.
The Fake Sheikh?

Lying and trying to discredit front line soldiers is, by all measures, disgusting.
Amen to that mate!

I do not remember a single soldier in Blair's parliament who voted to be sent over to that hellhole on what turned out to be lies about WMDs.
True.

The fact that those soldiers were being grilled on false charges while Blair was exonerated of actual charges is more an indictment of true British politics than anything else.
Actually, I think it's an indictment of those politicians who cheerfully signed up to the Human Rights act despite being told repeatedly what a legal minefield and all-round nightmare it would be for the Armed Forces engaged on operations abroad.

If the Government wins, it is due to the Government.
If the Government loses, blame somebody else.
"Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan."
 

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Oh surely it can't be true??? :shock2::shock2::shock2:

It seems it is:



Gee, d'ya think?:roll:

It gets better though:


"Career over"? Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
The lying, hypocritical, greedy, duplicitous creep.


What a lying, unscrupulous b*stard that man is.

You can read the rest of it here. Mine's a treble by the way!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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I'm so happy for you Sarge.

Now if only his name had been "Shinner" your joy would be complete ...
 

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Human Rights Lawyer my aras - like Finucane and that Dublin dirtbird, Kieran Conway....
Odd isn't it, how nowadays when you hear someone described as a "human rights lawyer", you automatically ask yourself just what the pr*ck is really after?
 

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The Guy is a complete and utter tosser. This isnt just a mistake his version of events shoved all over the media the BBC was that thirty iraqi's innocnt farmers were taken by the british and torturted and twenty were then executed but ten released :roll:.
Made so much noise a public inquiry was held only to discover
1 innocent farmers were actual insurgents and he knew that
2 they were paid rather a lot of money for their time
3 nobody was executed
4 tortute some rough handaling and denial of immediate medical aid for minor injurys and food which they were later given tends to happen if you get captured by people you tried to kill.
 

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Odd isn't it, how nowadays when you hear someone described as a "human rights lawyer", you automatically ask yourself just what the pr*ck is really after?
I must admit when I hear the term "human rights lawyer"

- the alarm bells go off!:evil:

British soldiers like everyone else are entitled to due process and fair procedure like anyone else.

However every war is savage and when 10s of thousands of men are involved in combat then inevitably some will go off the rails

I hope no innocent men were falsely convicted over this

Of course chief culprit Number 1 in the UK is none other than The Right Honourable [SIC] Tony Blair

- but as they say:

If you cant do the Time

- then don't do the Crime....


He did the Crime

- but he will never do Time.....:?
 

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Human Rights Lawyer my aras - like Finucane and that Dublin dirtbird, Kieran Conway....
And don't forget that one Rosemary Nelson one, she got what was coming to her too didn't she?
 
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Brits complain because someone didn't like their invasion of a Sovreign nation, on made up claims, the slaughter of people and anybody who opposed their criminal activity got called a terrorist.
 

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I must admit when I hear the term "human rights lawyer"

- the alarm bells go off!:evil:

British soldiers like everyone else are entitled to due process and fair procedure like anyone else.

However every war is savage and when 10s of thousands of men are involved in combat then inevitably some will go off the rails

I hope no innocent men were falsely convicted over this

Of course chief culprit Number 1 in the UK is none other than The Right Honourable [SIC] Tony Blair

- but as they say:

If you cant do the Time

- then don't do the Crime....


He did the Crime

- but he will never do Time.....:?
No, as far as I know none of the false claims resulted in a conviction, though many men were put under enormous stress and pressure worrying if they were going to charged. The allegations were in many cases absolutely outlandish, grotesque in fact, and were rapidly demolished in court when many of the so-called witnesses admitted to lying under oath and concocting their stories at the behest of Shiner's Iraqi agent. Shiner it seems, was well aware of this and covered it up while claiming tens of thousands of pounds in legal expenses.
A truly vile and revolting man, I hope to see him in the dock for Fraud against the British taxpayer.

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This all depends on the trustworthy of the British State to prosecute itself, it doesn't have a particularly good record in that regard.

Shiner may be guilty but that changes nothing with respect to the real life accusations against this army that is a colonial army with a notorious history of abusing native populations and which has never fully been reformed into a normal army from it's empire days, a state with a pathological instinct in resisting reform in fact.

A state that has bitterly resented the bringing up of these claims and accusations (as opposed to one which would welcome an opportunity to clean itself up).
 

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This all depends on the trustworthy of the British State to prosecute itself, it doesn't have a particularly good record in that regard.

Shiner may be guilty but that changes nothing with respect to the real life accusations against this army that is a colonial army with a notorious history of abusing native populations and which has never fully been reformed into a normal army from it's empire days, a state with a pathological instinct in resisting reform in fact.

A state that has bitterly resented the bringing up of these claims and accusations (as opposed to one which would welcome an opportunity to clean itself up).
Look Doofus, your Socialist poster-boy/greedy-hyprocritical-ambulance-chasing-scumbag is now totally discredited as are the vast majority of the allegations made against the British Army in Iraq, and Afghanistan too for that matter. Every one of those allegations that Shiner championed was throroughly investigated no matter how obviously bizarre or improbable they were. If you have knowledge of any credible complaints that haven't been investigated then let's hear them?

I pointed all this out to you a few weeks ago on another thread but you couldn't even be bothered to inform yourself of the facts and insisted on telling us what a hero this odious creep was. Well he isn't, he's nothing better than a crook, a fraudster in fact, and you have large quantities of egg all over your face as a result. Unfortunately you're just not man enough to admit you were hopelessly, laughably wrong about the lying louse and your baseless, biased criticisms of the British Army in Iraq/Afghanistan.
 
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Look Doofus, your Socialist poster-boy/greedy-hyprocritical-ambulance-chasing-scumbag is now totally discredited as are the vast majority of the allegations made against the British Army in Iraq, and Afghanistan too for that matter. Every one of those allegations that Shiner championed was throroughly investigated no matter how obviously bizarre or improbable they were. If you have knowledge of any credible complaints that haven't been investigated then let's hear them?

I pointed all this out to you a few weeks ago on another thread but you couldn't even be bothered to inform yourself of the facts and insisted on telling us what a hero this odious creep was. Well he isn't, he's nothing better than a crook, a fraudster in fact, and you have large quantities of egg all over your face as a result. Unfortunately you're just not man enough to admit you were hopelessly, laughably wrong about the lying louse and your baseless, biased criticisms of the British Army in Iraq/Afghanistan.
Britain committed War crimes by attacking a nation that was not attacking anybody.

Its Normal for UK to do this.
 

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Britain committed War crimes by attacking a nation that was not attacking anybody.

Its Normal for UK to do this.
Simplification beyond the borders of absurdity, but you're clearly comfortable there so what the hell. :rolleyes:

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Britain is worlds second largest terrorist regime..........
Lucky for you that it and I presune the country you would deem the "largest terrorist regime" stood up for democracy, or you'd be speaking German and liking it.
 

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Lucky for you that it and I presune the country you would deem the "largest terrorist regime" stood up for democracy, or you'd be speaking German and liking it.
We're had a foreign language from Germanic imposed on us called English super clever boy ;)
 

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We're had a foreign language from Germanic imposed on us called English super clever boy ;)
Wake up and thank god for that every day.

Google and Amazon etc would not be in the Republic if you didn't speak English.
 


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