Phil Woolas election nullified

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UK MP's election ruled void

The specially convened election court had heard that the Labour MP stirred up racial tensions in a desperate bid to retain his seat in Oldham East and Saddleworth.
His campaign team was said to have set out to “make the white folk angry” by depicting an alleged campaign by Muslims to “take Phil out”.
Really bad when a Labour Party candidate - let alone someone who was an Immigration minister - uses Race for dirty tricks campaign. Hopefully the party will act.
 


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Election re-run ordered after Court says winner told lies about opponent

Two High Court judges have ordered a re-run of this year's General Election campaign in the Greater Manchester constituency of ex-immigration minister Phil Woolas.

Mr Woolas won the Oldham East and Saddleworth seat by 103 votes over Liberal Democrat rival Elwyn Watkins.

But he has been found guilty of knowingly making false statements about Mr Watkins in campaign literature.
BBC News - Judges order election re-run in ex-minister's seat

If they brought this into Ireland we would have permanent election re-runs.
 

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lib dem members from as far away as cornwall are planning to head to oldham to help the party fight this and win, london members will be heading up by the coach load
 

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what woolas did was disgusting.
Its a three way marginal seat at a push,m and he'd have been in trouble if tories switched to lib dems.
He believed(ignorantly) that as the tories fieleded an asian candidate, tory voters would desert them for the lib dems because in his tint mind tories dont vote for Minority ethnic candidates(the fact that the tories have more minority ethnic MPS proprtionally than any other party shows how wrong woolas is)
so woolas, unable to play the race card against us as we fieled a white male candidate, whipped up a storm of p[rotest about our candidate being in league with musslim extremists.
He is an odious little scroat
 

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He went far beyod acceptable debate. Good on the courts.

 

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Willie O Dea made false allegations against an election candidate in Ireland, and he got a vote of confidence in the Dáil... just shows you the difference in standards eh
 

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I read he was done for lying, not for 'inciting hatred'. Obviously a two-faced labour ball-bag tho.
 

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Will Labour actually ratify this guy to stand in the by-election?
 

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Will Labour actually ratify this guy to stand in the by-election?
Under tha act by which the elctio was annulled he is not allowed to stand for election for a period of three years. His membership of the labour party has been suspended.
Bad judgment on behalf of Ed Milliband to put him in shadow cabinet with this hanging over him.
 

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Reminds me of one ex-minister of defence who was found out to have lied about another candidate in his constituency... Yet this man is still serving... I wonder if a similar case could be brought against him?
 

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Reminds me of one ex-minister of defence who was found out to have lied about another candidate in his constituency... Yet this man is still serving... I wonder if a similar case could be brought against him?
UK pols are allowed to tell lies about each other virtually all of the time.

It's just not cricket to do so right before an election, and in print.
 

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UK pols are allowed to tell lies about each other virtually all of the time.

It's just not cricket to do so right before an election, and in print.
Wasn't O'Dea's controversey similarly during an election campaign and on a tape recorder?

Could such a ruling be possible here?
 

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An outrageous attack on democracy and the right of the people to decide who represents them - liar or not. It underlines the increasing tendency of the unelected Pc-brigade to sanction elected politicians for putting their heads above the parapets. I don't agree with what he said, but following events in the Netherlands, this is an insidious attack on democracy. The fact that he is being barred from even standing in this election underlines the erosion of democracy by the PC-brigade. Lying is what politicians do (as we have discovered here to our cost).
 

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An outrageous attack on democracy and the right of the people to decide who represents them - liar or not. It underlines the increasing tendency of the unelected Pc-brigade to sanction elected politicians for putting their heads above the parapets. I don't agree with what he said, but following events in the Netherlands, this is an insidious attack on democracy. The fact that he is being barred from even standing in this election underlines the erosion of democracy by the PC-brigade. Lying is what politicians do (as we have discovered here to our cost).
No its not. This was a pro immigration minister making up a whole load of codswallop about an opponent in the hope that the electorate would be too stupid to reales he did one thing in Oldham and another thing in London.

On top of Harriet Harmon's attack on red haired people last week, it makes you wonder what the hell is going on in the so called "left".
 

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No its not. This was a pro immigration minister making up a whole load of codswallop about an opponent in the hope that the electorate would be too stupid to reales he did one thing in Oldham and another thing in London.

On top of Harriet Harmon's attack on red haired people last week, it makes you wonder what the hell is going on in the so called "left".
The point is that in a democracy, the people must have the final say in who represents them. Not some unelected bureaucrat. I think there is some merit in the idea of re-running the vote - but not in stopping Woolas from standing. Let the people he represents decide whether or not they still have confidence in him. Not some unelected, PC-Inquisition.
 

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An outrageous attack on democracy and the right of the people to decide who represents them - liar or not. It underlines the increasing tendency of the unelected Pc-brigade to sanction elected politicians for putting their heads above the parapets. I don't agree with what he said, but following events in the Netherlands, this is an insidious attack on democracy. The fact that he is being barred from even standing in this election underlines the erosion of democracy by the PC-brigade. Lying is what politicians do (as we have discovered here to our cost).

He was in breach of the rules plain and simple. GUILTY!! If you allow that to go unnoticed the next thing you will have is politicians paying pensioners £20 for their vote, or ignoring the restrictions on spending.

We don't have to put up with politicians lying, indeed we should demand better. There is a big difference between lying and misleading or being economical with the truth.
 


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